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Scandal
07-29-2020, 06:54 AM
She appears at 0:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=XPz1ohICWuk&feature=emb_title

Mortimer
07-29-2020, 06:55 AM
East Med + Turanid, looks central asian

Kyp
07-29-2020, 07:01 AM
Pretty

Blondie
07-29-2020, 07:02 AM
wow she has no gypsie name

Scandal
07-29-2020, 07:03 AM
wow she has no gypsie name

lol, horváth is common as fuck among gypsies.

and many gypsies don't have "gypsy surnames"

Blondie
07-29-2020, 07:05 AM
lol, horváth is common as fuck among gypsies.

and many gypsies don't have "gypsy surnames"

lol, no, Horváth is not gypsie name and most gypsies have gypsie names.

Scandal
07-29-2020, 07:08 AM
lol, no, Horváth is not gypsie name and

Horváth is a common surname among gypsies as well as among magyars.

Horváth Aladár, political leader of gypsies in Hungary, to give a famous example: https://www.google.hu/search?q=horv%C3%A1th+alad%C3%A1r&sxsrf=ALeKk00pwdgkVXx6ocOdY8ml9wPKIJYP3A:159600642 7676&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjE7bih8_HqAhXPwosKHWsKDNMQ_AUoAXoECAwQA w&biw=1920&bih=969


most gypsies have gypsie names.
I'm not really sure about that. Many of them have stereotypical gypsy surnames, many do not. I've seen magyars with stereotypical gypsy surnames like Váradi or Lakatos, Lakatos is obviously mostly carried by gypsies though.

So the picture is not as black and white as you're painting it.

Scandal
07-29-2020, 07:14 AM
Marian Cozma ügyben 7 elítélt közül csak 2-nek van kifejezetten cigány vezetékneve (Sztojka és Raffael): https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veszpr%C3%A9mi_k%C3%A9sel%C3%A9s#B%C3%BCntet%C5%91 elj%C3%A1r%C3%A1s

Blondie
07-29-2020, 07:20 AM
Horváth is a common surname among gypsies as well as among magyars. Horváth Aladár, political leader of gypsies in Hungary.

I don't deny that some gypsie has normal surname (becuse they have hungarian father for example), i just said it's not usual.


I'm not really sure about that. Many of them have stereotypical gypsy surnames, many do not. I've seen magyars with stereotypical gypsy surnames like Váradi or Lakatos, Lakatos is obviously mostly carried by gypsies though.

Váradi is not gypsie name, and normal hungarians have no gypsie surnames only the mixed ones. Just because you cherry picked some exception it doesn't mean you are right in general. Basically hungarians have hungarian names and gypsies have gypsie names.

Scandal
07-29-2020, 07:23 AM
Váradi névvel több cigányt láttam mint magyart. Nem mondom hogy cigány név, csak gyakori köztük ugyanúgy mint a horváth. Horváth Aladárnak nem magyar az apja.

Blondie
07-29-2020, 07:28 AM
Váradi névvel több cigányt láttam mint magyart.

lol no


Nem mondom hogy cigány név.

You said that:


stereotypical gypsy surnames like Váradi

Scandal
07-29-2020, 07:30 AM
Miket tartasz kizárólagosan cigány vezetéknévnek, amik gyakoriak is? Rostás, Sztojka, Kolompár. Több nem jut eszembe hirtelen. Van még az Orsós meg a Rézműves, de ezek nem gyakoriak. Sok cigánynak nem ezek közül van a vezetékneve.

Scandal
07-29-2020, 07:31 AM
lol no
lol yes

You don't know my experience. It's my personal, subjective experience, i didn't claim all the other hungarians share this experience with me.

You said that:

That's why I wrote stereotypical : - )

stereotypical gypsy surname is not the same as actual gypsy surname.

I consider Váradi a steretypical gypsy surname, because most people I've seen with it were gypsies. You find magyars with that surname as well, though. So it's not an exlusively gypsy surname, it's a surname found in both ethnicities like Horváth.

Mortimer
07-29-2020, 07:34 AM
Horvath is very common among gypsies

Kökény
07-29-2020, 07:35 AM
Váradi is not a gypsie name, and normal hungarians have no gypsie surnames only the mixed ones. Just because you cherry picked some exception it doesn't mean you are right in general. Basically hungarians have hungarian names and gypsies have gypsie names.
Váradi is indeed not a Gypsy surname, but it's carried by more Gypsies than Hungarians that's for sure. I had a half Gypsy friend, guess what was her mom's surname.

Scandal
07-29-2020, 07:54 AM
Pretty

Could she pass as Azeri?

Scandal
07-29-2020, 08:17 AM
East Med + Turanid, looks central asian

She does have a real Turanic/Turkic vibe, unlike blogen's fake turanids/pamirids lel
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?239194-Classify-Uyghur-girl&p=5044383&viewfull=1#post5044383
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?328623-Which-ethnicities-do-these-4-women-resemble-How-would-you-classify-them
It's probably just pseudo turanid though, she most likely has no turkic genetics.

Jana
07-29-2020, 08:20 AM
Hungarian conqueror look.

Scandal
07-29-2020, 08:21 AM
Hungarian conqueror look.

haha, interesting.

Kyp
07-29-2020, 08:30 AM
Could she pass as Azeri?

yes, but there is something European about her.

Videx
07-29-2020, 08:39 AM
Horvath is very common among gypsies

The only reason for that is because it's a very general name and common among Hungarians as well. It's definitely not a "stereotypically gypsy name" I have close relative with Horváth name. Yet I score no gypsy, or south Asian.

Mortimer
07-29-2020, 08:42 AM
The only reason for that is because it's a very general name and common among Hungarians as well. It's definitely not a "stereotypically gypsy name" I have close relative with Horváth name. Yet I score no gypsy, or south Asian.

This is a silly discussion because gypsies don't have original asian names anymore it is hungarian but common among gypsies its silly to debate this

Scandal
07-29-2020, 09:38 AM
Nem tartom a Horváth vezetéknevet szereotipikus cigány névnek (mint mondjuk a Lakatost), szimplán gyakori közöttük, ugyanúgy ahogy a magyarok között is gyakori.

itilvolga
07-29-2020, 10:06 AM
Turano-Med, she can pass as Yörük in Turkey very very easily.

Mr.G
07-29-2020, 10:50 AM
Agree with Turanid/Med

Blondie
07-29-2020, 02:07 PM
Váradi is indeed not a Gypsy surname, but it's carried by more Gypsies than Hungarians that's for sure.

Have you any source about it?


I consider Váradi a steretypical gypsy surname, because most people I've seen with it were gypsies.

no, because everybody knows the gypsie music band called "váradi roma café" and that's why many people associated this name with gypsies.

chociprasa
07-29-2020, 02:40 PM
Alföld-Andronovo Turanid, quintessentially Hungarian.

Seya
07-29-2020, 02:44 PM
This is not a gypsy look by any mean

Scandal
07-29-2020, 03:09 PM
This is not a gypsy look by any mean

She's not avarage gypsy: she's lighter and more euro than avarage, but I can still see her gypsy origins in her phenotye.

Scandal
07-29-2020, 03:15 PM
Alföld-Andronovo Turanid, quintessentially Hungarian.

Proto-hungarians weren't gypsies though, neither are modern ones.

Kökény
07-29-2020, 03:56 PM
Have you any source about it? Prove me wrong.


no, because everybody knows the gypsie music band called "váradi roma café" and that's why many people associated this name with gypsies.
It has nothing to do with that band. People associate this surname with Gypsies because a lot of them bear it.

Scandal
07-29-2020, 03:57 PM
Szerintem nincs nagy jelentősége hogy a magyarok vagy cigók között van több Váradi... mindkettő népben megtalálható szép számmal és kész.

Videx
07-29-2020, 04:06 PM
Én nem ismerek sok Váradit, csak egyre emlékszem, Váradi Kornél (sportoló), aki egyáltalán nem cigány. Google keresőben sok magyart is kidob, meg persze a Váradi roma cafe-t.

Blondie
07-29-2020, 04:20 PM
Prove me wrong.

No, you and Universe were the first ones who said it's a gypsie name or more gypsie have this name than hungarian, so you and Universe need to prove this firstly.


It has nothing to do with that band. People associate this surname with Gypsies because a lot of them bear it.

I wrote "váradi" name in the google and if i cut this váradi roma café music band, the results are mostly white hungarian váradi peoples not gypsies.

Blondie
07-29-2020, 04:25 PM
Szerintem nincs nagy jelentősége hogy a magyarok vagy cigók között van több Váradi... mindkettő népben megtalálható szép számmal és kész.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ5cUbDHVa4

Kökény
07-29-2020, 04:38 PM
No, you and Universe were the first ones who said it's a gypsie name or more gypsie have this name than hungarian, so you and Universe need to prove this firstly.
It's not that deep.

Everyone has their own opinion. How about accepting that?