Faces of R1a and R1b

[Ülev]

hello Steppe Warrior people


https://youtu.be/F1ZqiLtfeOM

[Frowning Man]

The true appearance of modern Europeans)
аhahaha

[Rocinante]

The real faces:

R1b-P312:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ppFNI5R7cBE/XKUdmWAdXzI/AAAAAAAAjoE/0qHA6AcnP_sNxrc5-T4GNpnVG1FWzNVUgCLcBGAs/s400/Bell%2BBeaker%2Bfrom%2BBritain.JPG

https://cdni.rt.com/actualidad/public_images/2016.08/original/r/1104/90/jpeg/579f3f8dc461884e3b8b4569.jpg

R1a-Z283 and R1b-U106:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cb/53/59/cb53594cb3c4df8532e8a854de529fb9.jpg

[Gallop]

https://cdni.rt.com/actualidad/public_images/2016.08/original/r/1104/90/jpeg/579f3f8dc461884e3b8b4569.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/www.labrujulaverde.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/ava1.jpg?w=999&ssl=1

The AVA phenotypes have already been corrected, they are rather those of the second photo.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/2018/12/reconstruyen-el-rostro-de-ava-una-mujer-encontrada-en-una-tumba-de-comienzos-de-la-edad-del-bronce-en-escocia


The video is very interesting, you can see the trail and the subsequent transformation already in Europe when mixing with farmers-ranchers + WHG.

[Rocinante]

https://cdni.rt.com/actualidad/public_images/2016.08/original/r/1104/90/jpeg/579f3f8dc461884e3b8b4569.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/www.labrujulaverde.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/ava1.jpg?w=999&ssl=1

The AVA phenotypes have already been corrected, they are rather those of the second photo.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/2018/12/reconstruyen-el-rostro-de-ava-una-mujer-encontrada-en-una-tumba-de-comienzos-de-la-edad-del-bronce-en-escocia


The video is very interesting, you can see the trail and the subsequent transformation already in Europe when mixing with farmers-ranchers + WHG.

I knew already that there is a new reconstruction of the Ava woman, but i posted the original one because is the best representation of the EHG and Steppe genes. Indeed the new one looks very neolithic.

[Gallop]

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ElsPQfNtF0M/V9lwoFYJC_I/AAAAAAADZVU/4rIa86TligU_LEzc9wOUOJ900hEmsB9egCLcB/s1600/juanito%2Bvalderrama%2Bfoto%2B2.jpg
Juanito Balderrama

https://static4.abc.es/media/espana/2020/03/25/rufian-prorroga-estado-alarma-U64140447311svc-620x349@abc.jpg
Rufián

https://c8.alamy.com/compes/p27w11/merche-esmeralda-isla-de-la-cartuja-sevilla-1996-p27w11.jpg
Merche Esmeralda

https://www.ecured.cu/images/d/d1/CristinaHoyos-103837_L.jpg
Cristina Hoyos

Exceptionally it is incredible as can be seen in these modern Andalusians.

[Rocinante]

Los que posteaste estan lejos de parecer esteparios o incluso estar cerca de ellos. Todos se parecen a nuestros antepasados neoliticos.

[ShereKhan]

I introduce you Corded Ware and Yamnaya

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/927049541552742590/03DF3E8C8C140DDEC7A8ADAE695D8D563C26B2B8/

[Rocinante]

I introduce you Corded Ware and Yamnaya

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/927049541552742590/03DF3E8C8C140DDEC7A8ADAE695D8D563C26B2B8/

Posting romanians are not a good example.

[Gallop]

I knew already that there is a new reconstruction of the Ava woman, but i posted the original one because is the best representation of the EHG and Steppe genes. Indeed the new one looks very neolithic.

You are not posting the original AVA as it is a wrong reconstruction that is already corrected.

What is the source that says that Steppe were blond boys?

Reconstruction of faces from the Neolithic

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRxkbs1cF5jvVa6RJw9qydxK24nOk6 95mQctw&usqp=CAU
Calpeia Gigraltar which is the same as saying southern Iberia 10% WHG

https://brightonmuseums.org.uk/brighton/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2018/12/Whitehawk-Woman-website.jpg
Neolithic of the British Isles. I don't know to what extent they match the skin tone. I am more interested in the morphology of the rosotro at this time

https://www.lavanguardia.com/r/GODO/LV/p3/WebSite/2016/04/26/Recortada/img_jsancho_20160426-142256_imagenes_lv_terceros_foto_mujer_neolitico-503-k0YD-U401380537270lNC-992x558@LaVanguardia-Web.jpg
Neolithic Barcelona

https://arbolesmuertosymuchatinta.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/napier-8.jpg?w=415&h=538
I don't think the invaders from the Steppe were like this

In the invasion of the Steppe in Iberia to date, I believe that no females have been found and if it is somewhat lower than in the rest of Europe and they were mostly male, these exceptional faces differ from the Neolithic reconstructions if we take into account that the appearance mixes neolithic cattle farmer + WHG would prevail in the mixture with the steppe added to later invasions

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQVoCDwJ6y1Fnb-ittUEYKw4XfB7I2JJWqPqA&usqp=CAU

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/V9JxUXmaCjxt3Z4PNn8UqV1D0i0l_q3KWSj7RtbG7dC20mLzDu ikfxOg37d0iIH2mr8LM1AUxY2L1nH9wdX3MMVz_mQPUqxmmXnr SIQRDa3VVMt5x5kIPHsrKHWttcNLGHAjLIQr7aInSjVXiQ

https://www.elnacional.cat/uploads/s1/77/24/36/2/gabriel-rufian-02-sergi-alcazar_1_630x630.jpeg

https://phantom-elmundo.unidadeditorial.es/cbd98dec6de727faf536dd6071ff0b1d/crop/0x0/2047x1365/resize/2047/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2020/08/25/15983555492366.jpg
Miguel Poveda. Catalan singer of Murcian and Castilian-Manchego origin

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qme_rJJfM5k/UWcrlkR-c2I/AAAAAAAAxmU/WZzPosHDKIo/s1600/juanito+valderrama04.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRINvq7Hm2CTUB_2rK1TfTKnA3WWD7 L-I_lqg&usqp=CAU
Iberian warrior

I believe that the Steppe in these exceptional and particular cases for modern Iberia are very significant

She, for example, is a Miss Spain of Andalusian Sevillian origin in particular and has a samurai ancestor from the Japanese expedition that arrived in Coria del Rio a few centuries ago. But in the previous samples of modern Spaniards an older trace is seen that by chance of genetics arises exceptionally

https://www.elimparcial.es/galerias-noticias/galerias/61883/medium/suarezd.jpg


So the video of the presentation could be very well on the way

[Benyzero]

https://i.imgur.com/rMTKu1u.jpg

[Rocinante]

You are not posting the original AVA as it is a wrong reconstruction that is already corrected.

What is the source that says that Steppe were blond boys?

Reconstruction of rostos from the Neolithic

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRxkbs1cF5jvVa6RJw9qydxK24nOk6 95mQctw&usqp=CAU
Calpeia Gigraltar which is the same as saying southern Iberia 10% WHG

https://brightonmuseums.org.uk/brighton/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2018/12/Whitehawk-Woman-website.jpg
Neolithic of the British Isles. I don't know to what extent they match the skin tone. I am more interested in the morphology of the rosotro at this time

https://www.lavanguardia.com/r/GODO/LV/p3/WebSite/2016/04/26/Recortada/img_jsancho_20160426-142256_imagenes_lv_terceros_foto_mujer_neolitico-503-k0YD-U401380537270lNC-992x558@LaVanguardia-Web.jpg
Neolithic Barcelona

https://arbolesmuertosymuchatinta.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/napier-8.jpg?w=415&h=538
I don't think the invaders from the Steppe were like this

In the invasion of the Steppe in Iberia to date, I believe that no females have been found and if it is somewhat lower than in the rest of Europe and they were mostly male, these exceptional faces differ from the Neolithic reconstructions if we take into account that the appearance mixes neolithic cattle farmer + WHG would prevail in the mixture with the steppe added to later invasions

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQVoCDwJ6y1Fnb-ittUEYKw4XfB7I2JJWqPqA&usqp=CAU

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/V9JxUXmaCjxt3Z4PNn8UqV1D0i0l_q3KWSj7RtbG7dC20mLzDu ikfxOg37d0iIH2mr8LM1AUxY2L1nH9wdX3MMVz_mQPUqxmmXnr SIQRDa3VVMt5x5kIPHsrKHWttcNLGHAjLIQr7aInSjVXiQ

https://www.elnacional.cat/uploads/s1/77/24/36/2/gabriel-rufian-02-sergi-alcazar_1_630x630.jpeg

https://phantom-elmundo.unidadeditorial.es/cbd98dec6de727faf536dd6071ff0b1d/crop/0x0/2047x1365/resize/2047/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2020/08/25/15983555492366.jpg
Miguel Poveda. Catalan singer of Murcian and Castilian-Manchego origin

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qme_rJJfM5k/UWcrlkR-c2I/AAAAAAAAxmU/WZzPosHDKIo/s1600/juanito+valderrama04.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRINvq7Hm2CTUB_2rK1TfTKnA3WWD7 L-I_lqg&usqp=CAU
Iberian warrior

I believe that the Steppe in these exceptional and particular cases for modern Iberia are very significant

She, for example, is a Miss Spain of Andalusian Sevillian origin in particular and has a samurai ancestor from the Japanese expedition that arrived in Coria del Rio a few centuries ago. But in the previous samples of modern Spaniards an older trace is seen that by chance of genetics arises exceptionally

https://www.elimparcial.es/galerias-noticias/galerias/61883/medium/suarezd.jpg


So the video of the presentation could be very well on the way

xD

The source is simple: The blonde comes from ANE, which EHG had for 3/4 of their admixture and the CHG for 1/3 of theirs. Steppe was 60% EHG and 35% CHG, so you got the reason why they were chesnut, blonde and red haired. Believing that yamnayas looked like modern mongols is highly ignorant, modern mongols doesn't even have steppe admixture, or near 0 of it.

[Chris596]

Well just a sidenote: I'm E-V13 and look at my face :confused: I can't explain that since I've already done many genetic tests and I'm ~90-95% European or around ~97-98% West Eurasian.

[Gallop]

xD

The source is simple: The blonde comes from ANE, which EHG had for 3/4 of their admixture and the CHG for 1/3 of theirs. Steppe was 60% EHG and 35% CHG, so you got the reason why they were chesnut, blonde and red haired. Believing that yamnayas looked like modern mongols is highly ignorant, modern mongols doesn't even have steppe admixture, or near 0 of it.

The source is your subjective image? then any other hypothesis fits. Any more serious study to confirm your wild hypothesis about the boys of the steppe?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81cBSOhMY4L._AC_SY450_.jpg

https://www.lacasadelasfiestas.com/9882-thickbox_default/peluca-rubia-melena-playboy-con-bigote.jpg

[Rocinante]

The source is your subjective image? then any other hypothesis fits. Any more serious study to confirm your wild hypothesis about the boys of the steppe?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81cBSOhMY4L._AC_SY450_.jpg

https://www.lacasadelasfiestas.com/9882-thickbox_default/peluca-rubia-melena-playboy-con-bigote.jpg

Claro, yo en vez de hablar basado en la ignorancia, prefiero siempre documentarme antes de pelear un argumento, yo no tengo una imagen subjetiva de las cosas, yo sencillamente que soy realista incluso con el iberomaurusian que me toca.

Prof. Conrado Martinez de la Jaume I:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqJbqqKv7dg

Si no te interesa escuchar y aprender de el en el video y quieres saltar directamente a lo de los "boys of the steppe", ve al minuto 36:20 y ahi te lo van a decir clarito.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afontova_Gora#Afontova_Gora_3

"El análisis fenotípico muestra que Afontova Gora 3 porta el alelo derivado rs12821256 asociado con el color del cabello rubio en los europeos, lo que convierte a Afontova Gora 3 en el primer individuo conocido portador este alelo derivado."

Is not that the western steppe herders were all blonde, is that ANE genes made that them were not dark haired as neolithic farmers and WHG, that's why Motala HG and a lot of EHG were actually light haired too.

North europeans are more light haired than us because thay have more ANE, is not a complicated science.

[Ion Basescul]

Mohana people in Pakistan

71% R1a

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16865206_1118020444993574_3602443039981103798_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=3OQcI1vUgVIAX9lLz6H&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=0291b641d102e7480eb518a10ab6478f&oe=5F6BD856

https://live.staticflickr.com/5224/5578620961_451e908b0f_b.jpg

Ouldeme people in Cameron

95.5% R1b

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81j5gGpabNL._SL1500_.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdRpI1VXkAAqMoy.jpg

[decordoba]

R1a
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R1b
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https://www.stylebook.de/data/uploads/2019/09/gettyimages-1169213828_1568995301-1040x690.jpg

[Rocinante]

R1a
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https://www.tips.at/image/thumb/news/467721/484702/800x800x0/1571122827.0265-walter-ablinger-beendet-saison-auf-dem-ersten-platz-der-weltrangliste.jpg
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R1b
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https://www.stylebook.de/data/uploads/2019/09/gettyimages-1169213828_1568995301-1040x690.jpg

Unmixed R-L21 beaker there, not like me, i am latino L21+ mixed, though i can dance reggaeton and flirt every woman.

[Ülev]

R1a
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https://www.tips.at/image/thumb/news/467721/484702/800x800x0/1571122827.0265-walter-ablinger-beendet-saison-auf-dem-ersten-platz-der-weltrangliste.jpg
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R1b
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https://www.stylebook.de/data/uploads/2019/09/gettyimages-1169213828_1568995301-1040x690.jpg

are you sure, that R1b looks like King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands (R1a)
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people