Classify a Hungarian Gypsy singer, Joci Pápai +where he pass?

[Hungarian_master]

https://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/2770/27707/277072/27707229_2125349_83c435d884ba0671c7a6d7788220f877_ wm.jpg
https://cdn.nwmgroups.hu/s/img/i/1912/20191217a-dal-2020-papai-joci5.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Joci_P%C3%A1pai_Kyiv_2017_2.jpg
https://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/1587/15870/158704/15870429_865733_f638f0e27cede298bfcb13dc5a1d9ecc_w m.jpg

Old pitcure of Joci:
https://doily.hu/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/papai-joci-regen2.jpg

Joci with his wife (she is Hungarian):
https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/-MxktkqTURBXy9kZjY4MDRlNGM0MTBhNjk2OTMyNDllZjI5ZTc0 Y2YzNS5qcGVnkpUDAADNAxTNAbuVAs0DpQDCww

His MyHeritage results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdeBWowwDU&t=2s

[Steppe Timelord]

looks asian. Idk? one of those ind0brachid versions of balto-alpine?

[Universe]

I dislike that haircut. I don't understand why ppl do it.

[Immanenz]

Pontid with IB

[Altaylı]

Indo brachid + alpine + pontid

[Steppe Timelord]

I dislike that haircut. I don't understand why ppl do it.

it's called the samurai haircut, he just embraces his asian roots.


Pontid with IB


too short faced for pontid and highly brachycephalic for pontid, you classify him as pontid only because he's dark. But he's closer to asian alpine though, than pontid. Isn't leptomorphic enough. welp, he'd even be closer to some lappoid example than pontid, but darker pigmented.

[Hungarian_master]

Indo brachid + alpine + pontid

He could pass as Turkish Gypsy?

Could you post some pitcures about them? How many Gypsies live in Turkey?
In Hungary, there are a large Gypsy population.

[Steppe Timelord]

Indo brachid + alpin

This classification sounds more correct. But without pontid, if there is, it's mostly minimal. If you look on humanphenotypes morphs, he's closer to "gorid" example, that's why I said baltoalpine with indo-brachid. seems to fit his description more.

[Immanenz]

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too short faced for pontid and highly brachycephalic for pontid, you classify him as pontid only because he's dark. But he's closer to asian alpine though, than pontid. Isn't leptomorphic enough. welp, he'd even be closer to some lappoid example than pontid, but darker pigmented.

imo his face is between Pontid and IB in width, thats why i went with it. GOrid/ IB he should be more braad faced and headed- imo he is just fat. Generally those classification- combinations of metrically different types are tricky to argue but in most cases what people consider as Gorid is just a broad faced/headed (=stretchted out) Pontid anyway.

[Steppe Timelord]

imo his face is between Pontid and IB in width, thats why i went with it. GOrid/ IB he should be more borad faced and headed- imo he is just fat. Genreally those classification- combinations of metrically different types are tricky to argue but in most cases what people consider as Gorid is just a broad faced/headed (=stretchted out) Pontid anyway.

lol wait what? that's new. gorid - broader faced pontid lmfao.
He's obviously with wide bizygomatic measurement.
even John Goodman is fat, but he doesn't look that round headed like him.

[Altaylı]

He could pass as Turkish Gypsy?

Could you post some pitcures about them? How many Gypsies live in Turkey?
In Hungary, there are a large Gypsy population.

Yes he can pass unfortunatelly i dont have Turkish gypsy photos sorry my friend

[Ion Basescul]

I dislike that haircut. I don't understand why ppl do it.

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/male-head-thinning-hair-alopecia-260nw-1082707532.jpg

[Immanenz]

lol wait what? that's new. gorid - broader faced pontid lmfao.
He's obviously with wide bizygomatic measurement.
even John Goodman is fat, but he doesn't look that round headed like him.



John Goodman is a British Brunn, he is longer headed than the average Pontid (not taking account of his width)- an IndoBrachid admix has absoltley no chance to compete with that lol

imo Mortimer is a Gorid with IB, he seems also more broad/ short headed than OP, but i dont want to fight about such things- Gorid/IB works too for OP

[Steppe Timelord]

John Goodman is a British Brunn, he is longer headed than the average Pontid (not taking account of his width)- an IndoBrachid admix has absoltley no chance to compete with that lol

imo Mortimer is a Gorid with IB, he seems also more broad/ short headed than OP, but i dont want to argue about such things- Gorid/IB works too for OP

Fighting is its own thing not applicable here. ;)
Neither do I.
Of course it works. Morti actually looks narrower compared to OP, but maybe because we have had enough pics from him.

[Mortimer]

I think ib and Asian alpinid looks roma

[Universe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPpm7ArqFqw

[Benyzero]

I dislike that haircut. I don't understand why ppl do it.

You would have that style if you had hair

[Roy]

He looks like a regular Gypsy, so ... India.

[Tauromachos]

Can pass in the Middle East

[The Blade]

I dislike that haircut. I don't understand why ppl do it.
+10. Really dumb hair style, especially for a man.

Indobrachid + Alpinid for classification. Passes as a Gypsy only.

[The Blade]

it's called the samurai haircut, he just embraces his asian roots.




too short faced for pontid and highly brachycephalic for pontid, you classify him as pontid only because he's dark. But he's closer to asian alpine though, than pontid. Isn't leptomorphic enough. welp, he'd even be closer to some lappoid example than pontid, but darker pigmented.
He doesn't show Pontid qualities. Immanenz is often correct about his classifications but Pontid is a term many people in general spit out too easily when they see a thread about someone from Central or Eastern Europe, apparently applied even to Gypsy descended people. Most abused term on this forum nowadays. 2 years ago it was North Atlantid.

[Ülev]

Balkan Gypsy, Polish Gypsies look different a bit

[travv]

Pontid is Med type like Atlanto-Med or Gracile-Med.

The only reason why the paleos are wary of using that term is that it sounds not enough Western.

[Kaazi]

He can pass but it's obvious there's some Euro mix in him.

[Impaler]

He looks like Romanian Gypsy from Transylvania:

https://i.ibb.co/VH74B6t/maxresdefault.jpg (https://ibb.co/PT7HCkN)
https://i.ibb.co/xLdV1wZ/512x512bb.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)