Real Turkish Paleo-Atlantid = Alpay Özalan?

[Hektor12]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMWZkZjI0MzUtN2QyZi00ZjA0LTg0YWYtOWQ4YjI4ZmFlOG U2XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjUyNDk2ODc@._V1_UY1200_CR751,0, 630,1200_AL_.jpg
https://bilder.t-online.de/b/83/80/83/74/id_83808374/c_Master-1-1-Large/tid_da/spielte-drei-jahre-lang-fuer-den-effzeh-aplay-oezalan-bild-von-2006-.jpg
https://cdn.sporx.com/img/2016/04/211461232251.jpg
https://londragazete.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ALPAY-1.jpg
https://i4.hurimg.com/i/hurriyet/75/750x422/5ae309120f25441cfc73b07b.jpg
https://i12.haber7.net//haber/haber7/photos/2018/04/surpriz_alpay_ozalan_karari_1516731224_1542.jpg
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/1505.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mCqe0Xk.jpg


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Opinions?

[Tooting Carmen]

Looks like a cross between Arnold Schwarznegger and Roger Federer.

[Hektor12]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/3e/1b/1e3e1bd2df49a0607ab7105dc716dbc1.png
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/G78C70/turkey-and-aston-villas-alpay-ozalan-left-during-a-training-session-G78C70.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2D4HF6D/turkeys-alpay-ozalan-stretches-during-a-training-session-in-hong-kong-may-22-2002-turkey-is-grouped-with-china-costa-rica-and-brazil-in-the-world-cup-finals-co-hosted-by-south-korea-and-japan-2D4HF6D.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1Te4BeXQAAwZuE.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/JE10GM/alpay-ozalan-aston-villa-fc-birmingham-villa-park-birmingham-16-september-JE10GM.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/JE0JN7/ozalan-alpay-aston-villa-fc-tamworth-birmingham-31-may-2000-JE0JN7.jpg
https://im.haberturk.com/galeri/2013/09/06/ver1378905446/430794/7c6502cc7e29b7a2033d3d5ae965c2ca_k.jpg
https://foto.haberler.com/galeri/2013/09/27/eski-futbolcu-alpay-ozalan-kasli-vucuduyla_79101_b.jpg
https://foto.sondakika.com/galeri/2013/09/27/eski-futbolcu-alpay-ozalan-kasli-vucuduyla_21519_b.jpg

[Oliver109]

Looks a bit like that gun nut from Kentucky i posted the other day, mainly CM with Med.

[Hektor12]

Looks a bit like that gun nut from Kentucky i posted the other day, mainly CM with Med.

Passing in the UK by any means?

[Oliver109]

Passing in the UK by any means?

Yeah, no problem passing here

[Immanenz]

As people already said- robustness does not necessarily mean WHG derived (aka old Cromagnons) His robustness most likly comes from Steppe ancestry (Chg most likely)- mixed that with Farmer and you get that Paleo Atlantid basically, that Paleo Atlantid term is a screwd one.

[Kivan]

Dinaro-Med + CM.

[Oliver109]

As people already said- robustness does not necessarily mean WHG derived (aka old Cromagnons) His robustness most likly comes from Steppe ancestry (Chg most likely)- mixed that with Farmer and you get that Paleo Atlantid basically, that Paleo Atlantid term is a screwd one.

CHG's and WHG's would have been closely related originally no? i see in this man a strong relation to the Nortwestern types.

[Immanenz]

CHG's and WHG's would have been closely related originally no? i see in this man a strong relation to the Nortwestern types.

well, basically North Europeans have a lot of Steppe ancestry (Ehg and CHG combined) + old Euroepan (WHG) too. This certainly helps for more Cm-like individuals. And yes EHG and CHG has its affinity to native Americas since it shares the old ANE (Ancient Northeurasian) admix with them.

[Oliver109]

well, basically North Europeans have a lot of Steppe ancestry (Ehg and CHG combined) + old Euroepan (WHG) too. This certainly helps for more Cm-like individuals. And yes EHG and CHG has its affinity to native Americas since it shares the old ANE (Ancient Northeurasian) admix with them.

I think many native AM's are basically metrically at least in head metrics identical to Cro Magnon's, Coon said the Tehuelche were the closest samples to the Cro Magnon skulls.

[Immanenz]

I think many native AM's are basically metrically at least in head metrics identical to Cro Magnon's, Coon said the Tehuelche were the closest samples to the Cro Magnon skulls.

they are probably also closer to ANE and EHG/Chg imo - even though i dont know which skulls exactly Coon was comapring- that Combe Capelle Skull most likely, there were several other odl European Up skulls and they looked different.

Those Tehuelche remind me also of Ket people (obv. since they are an old Siberian population)
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/man/the-curious-case-of-kets-t29.html
his byzogomanthic breath must be remarkable:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Ket_shaman_1914.png
unfourtnley there was a thread on anthroscape too , but the board is dead.

[Oliver109]

they are probably also closer to ANE and EHG/Chg imo - even though i dont know which skulls exactly Coon was comapring- that Combe Capelle Skull most likely, there were several other odl European Up skulls and they looked different.

Those Tehuelche remind me also of Ket people (obv. since they are an old Siberian population)
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/man/the-curious-case-of-kets-t29.html
his byzogomanthic breath must be remarkable:
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/man/the-curious-case-of-kets-t29.html
unfourtnley there was a thread on anthroscape too , but the board is dead.

Coon said that the UP survivors in general varied less than the current European populations and would have formed a single population in much the same way as say the Lapps did with little variation in features. I imagine he would have been referring to the whole body of skulls such as Brunn man, Oberkassel man and Teviec.

[Faklon]

This is a new level of the Turkish paleo-Atlantid type.

You went from classic Aegean meds up to Serbia like the bro on the left.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujQBKpjYqfE&ab_channel=SpookyBones