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Laly
04-09-2023, 09:37 PM
I find it “funny” that in a series, he plays the role of a typically White, Flemish boy, from a good family, who has Moroccan friends (as you can read in his interview here: https://aso.scheppers-mechelen.be/ward-kerremans/)

https://aso.scheppers-mechelen.be/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/ward_kerremans_2020_1.jpg

https://d3goj5urzzuh84.cloudfront.net/feed/406851-ward-kerremans-en-danira-boukhriss-zijn-samen/_1536x1152_crop_center-center_82_line/406869/2022_wardkerremans.jpg

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/r5SzinWP15ei7UT6w9zQfERjveQ/diocontent/222703579/_fitwidth/694/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.8

https://www.redactie24.be/sites/redactie24/files/styles/news/public/2023-03/Ward%20Kerremans%20De%20Tafel%20van%20Vier.png?h=9 4fc776b&itok=O_2wrrcy

https://imgsrc.cineserie.com/2018/02/447256.jpg?ver=1

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/J2MFuz9f0fQQHUdNUZ5KfCNd7-U/diocontent/228643982/_fitwidth/694/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.8

https://www.thedailybiography.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Actor-Ward-Kerremans-Image.jpg

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/11K2SOkuQqnILYG-_Fg-cRF9h7o/diocontent/228643983/_fill/1350/900/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.9

https://www.showbizzsite.be/sites/default/files/styles/news_category_overview/public/2022-01/Glad-ijs_Afl03_10.jpg?h=05826d76

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/EhLLc6_PnVJ9JUuuYi8FBpXZn2Y/diocontent/211804771/_focus/0.46/0.32/_fill/1200/630/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.7

https://transform.nws.ai/https%3A//cdn.thenewsroom.io/platform/story_media/1288797022/046.jpg/w_1200,c_limit/

Oliver109
04-09-2023, 09:57 PM
Looks typically Belgian, atlanto med-atlantid with minor alpine

Ruggery
04-09-2023, 10:02 PM
Atlanto med

Laly
04-09-2023, 10:06 PM
Actually, I find him very hot! :love0031:

Laly
04-10-2023, 09:27 AM
Looks typically Belgian, atlanto med-atlantid with minor alpine

What is so typical about him?

Laly
04-11-2023, 11:52 AM
Any other opinion? Here are other pictures of Ward Kerremans:

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4D05AQH76CrQ5FeXLg/videocover-low/0/1642405949459?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=FHQ1QLDHXtVS1v1Jxq4sP2Af8Q7cKF7289bOfSfKDFI

https://img.static-rmg.be/a/view/q75/w2400/h1256/f50.00,50.00/5170873/unnamed-file-jpg.jpg

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/Z_zMLFg0gfJXL0w0fq0wQumcdaQ/diocontent/228628699/_fitwidth/1240?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.9

https://vfdb.be/webp/1641382843_bilie-vs-benjamin-13.webp

https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/Aad-domaPOVl69eU3I_ERrETSrA/diocontent/228628701/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTY0ZDViMTEtMjk2OC00OTE3LThlNzEtNjc1NzE4YjFjNm ZjXkEyXkFqcGdeQWRpZWdtb25n._V1_QL75_UX500_CR0,0,50 0,281_.jpg

https://fr.web.img4.acsta.net/r_1920_1080/pictures/23/03/14/16/13/5385834.jpg

https://offside.be/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Kerremans-Ward-Noise-21-02-2023.jpg

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZjRiNzRhYTEtODRkMS00ODZiLTllNjItZmU3Y2FiY2E4Yj MzXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTIzMDIxMTkx._V1_.jpg

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNGQ3ZDgyZWMtYzFkMy00MWQyLWE0NWUtNzI1Y2I3NDQxOW YxXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTIzMDIxMTkx._V1_.jpg

Gallicus
04-11-2023, 12:45 PM
Belgians are often swarthier than Northern French (Nord-Pas de Calais) I noticed.

PaganPoet
04-11-2023, 01:07 PM
Belgians are often swarthier than Northern French (Nord-Pas de Calais) I noticed.

I noticed as well, and have heard of this before.

Laly
04-11-2023, 02:59 PM
Belgians are often swarthier than Northern French (Nord-Pas de Calais) I noticed.


I noticed as well, and have heard of this before.

Why are many Belgians so black?

PaganPoet
04-11-2023, 03:33 PM
Why are many Belgians so black?

Black??
That is kind of a stretch...

Laly
04-11-2023, 03:36 PM
Black??
That is kind of a stretch...

So dark, I wanted to say. So why, if I may ask you?

PaganPoet
04-11-2023, 03:40 PM
So dark, I wanted to say. So why, if I may ask you?

I don't know exactly. But I know it is not some Spanish contribution as sometimes is rumoured. Actual Romans probably neither, as they were a (ruling) minority during the Roman empire... So I assume the migration period is the most important contribution.

Laly
04-11-2023, 05:58 PM
I don't know exactly. But I know it is not some Spanish contribution as sometimes is rumoured. Actual Romans probably neither, as they were a (ruling) minority during the Roman empire... So I assume the migration period is the most important contribution.

I'm not sure it's that. For ex., my husband is like that too and he's just Belgian, and he is really into genealogy and he had a dna test done.

His dna test: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?331739-Laly%92s-husband-results-%96-please-help!

My husband:

https://i.imgur.com/qRUlsdI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/j33yYDl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gMoJ5Me.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FVWu7xR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Uk8IuzV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tGQkME0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cnr0RmM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pLT4LVb.jpg

I am not comfortable with the fact we look like that, I think we Belgians look ridiculous.

PaganPoet
04-11-2023, 06:11 PM
I'm not sure it's that. For ex., my husband is like that too and he's just Belgian, and he is really into genealogy and he had a dna test done.

His dna test: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?331739-Laly%92s-husband-results-%96-please-help!

My husband:

https://i.imgur.com/qRUlsdI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/j33yYDl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gMoJ5Me.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FVWu7xR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Uk8IuzV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tGQkME0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cnr0RmM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pLT4LVb.jpg

I am not comfortable with the fact we look like that, I think we Belgians look ridiculous.

It is from Roman period, partially... But not actual Romans themselves..as they are the founding minority of the empire.

And why are you not comfortable with the way we look? Or was that just a reference of him spilling milk?

Laly
04-11-2023, 06:41 PM
It is from Roman period, partially... But not actual Romans themselves..as they are the founding minority of the empire.

And why are you not comfortable with the way we look? Or was that just a reference of him spilling milk?

I did not say that in reference to a picture I posted, but concerning Belgians in general. I feel that we are a subject of mockery, including because of the way we look, compared to our neighbours, for ex. I would have preferred to belong to a dreamier people.

Gallicus
04-12-2023, 12:51 AM
Interesting. I had a Belgian girlfriend who looked almost Maghrebi, her sister even more. Yet there was no evidence of any foreigner in her family history (only rumors of an Italian grand grand grand grand mother but that couldn't explain such a look).

Imo it's probably related to some old Neolithic migrations. By contrast, Northern French coastal regions (Normandy, Somme, Pas-de-Calais, Nord) received a lot of Anglo-Saxon settlers during the migration era. This could explain why they are often whiter than Belgians (and North-eastern French).

PaganPoet
04-12-2023, 01:12 AM
Interesting. I had a Belgian girlfriend who looked almost Maghrebi, her sister even more. Yet there was no evidence of any foreigner in her family history (only rumors of an Italian grand grand grand grand mother but that couldn't explain such a look).

Imo it's probably related to some old Neolithic migrations. By contrast, Northern French coastal regions (Normandy, Somme, Pas-de-Calais, Nord) received a lot of Anglo-Saxon settlers during the migration era. This could explain why they are often whiter than Belgians (and North-eastern French).

Neolithic? But this tendency in phenotype staying in one place for thousands of years sounds kind of weird.

PaganPoet
04-12-2023, 01:19 AM
I did not say that in reference to a picture I posted, but concerning Belgians in general. I feel that we are a subject of mockery, including because of the way we look, compared to our neighbours, for ex. I would have preferred to belong to a dreamier people.

Weird. I don't want to look Dutch or German. Of which I don't think they are particularly dreamy. As matter of fact, I think Belgians are the most dreamy of western Europe. If you talk about actual (day)dreaming, that is.

Eurafricanid
04-12-2023, 01:24 AM
Atlantid + Alpine

Laly
04-12-2023, 06:15 PM
Weird. I don't want to look Dutch or German. Of which I don't think they are particularly dreamy. As matter of fact, I think Belgians are the most dreamy of western Europe. If you talk about actual (day)dreaming, that is.

It's nice you manage to be proud of your Belgian identity, to accept it.

PaganPoet
04-12-2023, 06:43 PM
It's nice you manage to be proud of your Belgian identity, to accept it.

What do people say when they make fun of us?

Laly
04-12-2023, 07:12 PM
What do people say when they make fun of us?

Well, I suppose you know what I'm talking about. :)

Laly
04-13-2023, 04:17 PM
It is from Roman period, partially... But not actual Romans themselves..as they are the founding minority of the empire.

And why are you not comfortable with the way we look? Or was that just a reference of him spilling milk?

Who would be responsible for that, if not "Romans themselves"? It's still not clear.

Hektor12
04-13-2023, 04:20 PM
This is how would he look like if he was Italian=

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoXewzBXgAM5TJl?format=jpg&name=large

Laly
04-13-2023, 04:26 PM
This is how would he look like if he was Italian=

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoXewzBXgAM5TJl?format=jpg&name=large

So, you see a big difference?

Ward Kerremans or my husband don't have an Italian look but a distinctively North-Western/Belgian look?

PaganPoet
04-13-2023, 04:26 PM
Who would be responsible for that, if not "Romans themselves"? It's still not clear.

Other populations in and around the Roman empire. Mostly from southeast.

PaganPoet
04-13-2023, 04:28 PM
So, you see a big difference?

Ward Kerremans or my husband don't have an Italian look but a distinctively North-Western/Belgian look?

This Italian man is probably long headed in profile view.

Laly
04-13-2023, 04:29 PM
Other populations in and around the Roman empire. Mostly from southeast.

It would be nice if you could be more precise.

PaganPoet
04-13-2023, 04:34 PM
It would be nice if you could be more precise.

I just know Belgians lean towards the southeast compared to Dutch or English. Like your husband's test result is around Pannonia. And what darkish peoples do you think there were in late roman and early medieval times?https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Invasions_of_the_Roman_Empire_1.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Avar_Khaganate_Map_602.png

Laly
04-13-2023, 06:30 PM
I just know Belgians lean towards the southeast compared to Dutch or English. Like your husband's test result is around Pannonia. And what darkish peoples do you think there were in late roman and early medieval times?https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Invasions_of_the_Roman_Empire_1.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Avar_Khaganate_Map_602.png


Thank you for your answer. But is there any evidence that these Huns & co would have had a significant impact on Belgians’ genes? How come we don’t hear about such thing anywhere?

By the way, I don’t know if you had seen in my husband’s thread, but according to member Piotrashke, my husband is Est/North-Est shifted:

https://i.imgur.com/RO4hT8p.jpg

He also made his similarity map to European populations based on K36 results:

https://i.imgur.com/E0tbXhp.png

I admit that I am extremely ignorant concerning genetics, I still don’t understand much regarding it. But I really want to understand why the Belgians are the way they are.

PaganPoet
04-13-2023, 07:02 PM
Thank you for your answer. But is there any evidence that these Huns & co would have had a significant impact on Belgians’ genes? How come we don’t hear about such thing anywhere?

By the way, I don’t know if you had seen in my husband’s thread, but according to member Piotrashke, my husband is Est/North-Est shifted:

https://i.imgur.com/RO4hT8p.jpg

He also made his similarity map to European populations based on K36 results:

https://i.imgur.com/E0tbXhp.png

I admit that I am extremely ignorant concerning genetics, I still don’t understand much regarding it. But I really want to understand why the Belgians are the way they are.

I only know you need a test that goes far back in time and that most DNA tests are going back a few hundred years. And that certain "exotic" dna may be seen as local dna because it is from too long ago...
I have heard of people having such dna, and wouldn't be surprised to have it too. This is in no way unique to Belgium as far as I know...

Laly
04-13-2023, 08:43 PM
I only know you need a test that goes far back in time and that most DNA tests are going back a few hundred years. And that certain "exotic" dna may be seen as local dna because it is from too long ago...
I have heard of people having such dna, and wouldn't be surprised to have it too. This is in no way unique to Belgium as far as I know...

Thank you for your explanations. Until when is it possible to go back in time with those genetic tests?