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Kess
11-07-2023, 01:57 PM
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Is he textbook Steppe Pontid?

Hektor12
11-07-2023, 03:33 PM
Pamirid

Kess
11-07-2023, 04:03 PM
Any other ideas?

aherne
11-07-2023, 06:57 PM
Turanid + ???

Beowulf
11-07-2023, 07:17 PM
Pontid CM + Some Turanid?

seems a good and interesting reconstruction where can i read more about it?

Ahmet
11-07-2023, 08:01 PM
I don't know much about Cumans but I always thought Cuman-Kipchaks probably looked like Mongoloid-Blondes (like Bashkirs) instead, he looks very familiar you can easily find this man in western parts of Turkiye. I wonder how common that phenotype was among Cuman-Kipchaks.

Kess
11-07-2023, 08:03 PM
Pontid CM + Some Turanid?

seems a good and interesting reconstruction where can i read more about it?

https://twitter.com/nrken19/status/1492974427469930502

I took it from here.

Beowulf
11-07-2023, 08:07 PM
https://twitter.com/nrken19/status/1492974427469930502

I took it from here.

Thank You Kessaras!

andrzej
11-07-2023, 09:18 PM
I don't know much about Cumans but I always thought Cuman-Kipchaks probably looked like Mongoloid-Blondes (like Bashkirs) instead, he looks very familiar you can easily find this man in western parts of Turkiye. I wonder how common that phenotype was among Cuman-Kipchaks.
Blondism among them was overestimated and they were probably more diverse with some looking more west Eurasian and others having more significant East Eurasian features.

Kess
11-07-2023, 09:33 PM
Blondism among them was overestimated and they were probably more diverse with some looking more west Eurasian and others having more significant East Eurasian features.

Crimean Tatar[nb 1]
Karachay-Balkar (Mountain Turkic)
Kumyk
Karaim
Krymchak
Urum

These are the people who speak Kipchak-Cuman language. None of them are predominantly blondes.

An alternative etymology of Polovtsy is also possible: the Slavic root *pȍlje "field" (cf. Polish, Russian pole), which would therefore imply that Polovtsy were "men of the field" or "men of the steppe" in contrast to the Lipovtsi.

So, their name origin could be not blonde after all but I am not sure.