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Aryan Aries
12-20-2023, 06:02 AM
Born and raised in Heidelberg, Frederik Hahn (also known as "Torch" and "DJ Haitian Star") was a pioneer of German-language rap music in the 80s and 90s. Torch is known for his deep and philosophical lyrics, as well as his poetical style. He only released one - but legendary and innovative - concept album in his whole career: Blauer Samt (2000).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Pressefoto_Torch.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jk4KKAh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ow803ng.png

Hahn has an interesting background. His mother comes from an upper class Haitian family, while his father is a German doctor, with ancestry from East Prussia.

His maternal lineage from Haiti seems to be gifted with a talent for writing. Two of his relatives - while not rappers/lyricists - nonetheless became famous authors. Georges Castera (writing in French) and Nick Stone (writing in English):

https://scontent-dus1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/127211107_215294853343790_7180345581649542652_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=7f8c78&_nc_ohc=SjaB91Mkp7EAX_FdGAW&_nc_ht=scontent-dus1-1.xx&oh=00_AfChb4uRrIjRxtqumIypWebCJjW-NIpyvTAie7r66IZzNg&oe=65A9E435
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mZD_4QCg4SU/S5_Gk4dPWDI/AAAAAAAACgg/PgamFKRwiHM/s1600/nick-stone-photo%5B1%5D.jpg

Aryan Aries
12-29-2023, 02:11 PM
Bump

Nurzat
12-29-2023, 02:25 PM
his Haitian relatives look Europoid. and he doesn't look half non-Euro either. robust Teutonic look

Aryan Aries
12-29-2023, 02:30 PM
I think Georges Castera (Frederik's maternal uncle) looks more negroid-influenced than him. But yeah, they're all fairly light-skinned with Europid influence.

Aryan Aries
12-29-2023, 02:56 PM
Ah yes... I managed to find a video showing Frederik's mom too. Though maybe not the best quality:

https://i.imgur.com/Qx8eaJV.png

Unfortunately I couldn't find a picture of Frederik's Prussian-German father. I think it's interesting for classification not only to look at the individual person, but also to consider his/her close relatives.

Aryan Aries
01-18-2024, 04:59 PM
Unfortunately I couldn't find a picture of Frederik's Prussian-German father.

I managed to find a picture of Kristian Hahn, Frederik's father. :cool: He was born 1942 in Tilsit, East Prussia (today Sovetsk, Kaliningrad).

https://www.bergstraesser-anzeiger.de/cms_media/module_img/3164/1582081_1_teaser640r132force_img_04409949.jpg

Ketchup
01-18-2024, 11:04 PM
Born and raised in Heidelberg, Frederik Hahn (also known as "Torch" and "DJ Haitian Star") was a pioneer of German-language rap music in the 80s and 90s. Torch is known for his deep and philosophical lyrics, as well as his poetical style. He only released one - but legendary and innovative - concept album in his whole career: Blauer Samt (2000).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Pressefoto_Torch.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jk4KKAh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ow803ng.png

Hahn has an interesting background. His mother comes from an upper class Haitian family, while his father is a German doctor, with ancestry from East Prussia.

His maternal lineage from Haiti seems to be gifted with a talent for writing. Two of his relatives - while not rappers/lyricists - nonetheless became famous authors. Georges Castera (writing in French) and Nick Stone (writing in English):

https://scontent-dus1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/127211107_215294853343790_7180345581649542652_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=7f8c78&_nc_ohc=SjaB91Mkp7EAX_FdGAW&_nc_ht=scontent-dus1-1.xx&oh=00_AfChb4uRrIjRxtqumIypWebCJjW-NIpyvTAie7r66IZzNg&oe=65A9E435
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mZD_4QCg4SU/S5_Gk4dPWDI/AAAAAAAACgg/PgamFKRwiHM/s1600/nick-stone-photo%5B1%5D.jpg

one of my former roommates was a similar mix, french dad haitian mom. was a chill dude.

aherne
01-19-2024, 01:08 PM
Baltid + secondary Negroid