How would you classify this Afghan gentleman?

[Avicenna]

https://i.ibb.co/7QXsPP1/Screenshot-20240422-000241.jpg (https://ibb.co/9hNQ66r)
https://i.ibb.co/nL27YHM/Screenshot-20240422-000305.jpg (https://ibb.co/QKBPT2v)
https://i.ibb.co/rHrR9TZ/Screenshot-20240422-000251.jpg (https://ibb.co/5LHgZt5)

[Oliver109]

some sort of iranid-atlantid? pontid? blend, he doesnt look out of place in France.

[Avicenna]

some sort of iranid-atlantid? pontid? blend, he doesnt look out of place in France.

Possibly, I agree he does look very European. Wouldnt look out place in Kent or Essex even.

[Xacal]

Looks Atlantid

[Oliver109]

Possibly, I agree he does look very European. Wouldnt look out place in Kent or Essex even.

Yeah, he would look quite typical as a Tory MP lol

[Triporteur]

Atlando-med.

European phenotype, pass almost everywhere in Western Europe.

[Sarmale]

Where do you find these people?

[Avicenna]

Where do you find these people?

Facebook. I just came across him, I've seen types lighter than him however not as western in phenotype which is what intrigued me . Hence the classification:)

[Xacal]

He could pass in Britain, France and Spain

[Odelia]

Atlantid. Wtf he looks like English actor Ian Holm.

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5eee67669964369bbb408167/4:3/w_2475,h_1856,c_limit/Lane-IanHolm.jpg

Look I know there are light Afghan types, but these are the iranic nordic ones which occur naturally there. Except this guy is a strange Atlantid western euro type. Are you sure that he's full Afghan and not an anglo-afghan mix?

[Avicenna]

Atlantid. Wtf he looks like English actor Ian Holm.

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5eee67669964369bbb408167/4:3/w_2475,h_1856,c_limit/Lane-IanHolm.jpg

Look I know there are light Afghan types, but these are the iranic nordic ones which occur naturally there. Except this guy is a strange Atlantid western euro type. Are you sure that he's full Afghan and not an anglo-afghan mix?

No he's fully Afghan, he types in Dari ( Afghan alphabet) all of his comments are his family with his surname and they are all afghans. I can show you his profile through PM if you want .

[Nurzat]

French and, why not, British - has a very „supporting actor” vibe (not for a leading role). otherwise he looks quite neutral in terms of West vs East and North vs South, cannot place him better than that, although this neutral look passes him in most of Europe actually

[thisismyaccount]

He's tajik, right? From Kabul or somewhere in shamal I presume?

[Katarzyna]

Atlanto-med indeed
Very European looking

[Avicenna]

He's tajik, right? From Kabul or somewhere in shamal I presume?

I don't know, you underestimate pashtuns imo. Many of kabulis in America who can pass as euro Americans are infact pashtuns. However just like everyone in Kabul, they become persianised and leave their native Pashto behind.

[Immanenz]

He looks very American, maybe Italo-Brit or simply French

[Hektor12]

Pontid expansion to the east with perhaps a little bit robust component.

https://i.imgur.com/c4TdVjX.gif

[thisismyaccount]

I don't know, you underestimate pashtuns imo. Many of kabulis in America who can pass as euro Americans are infact pashtuns. However just like everyone in Kabul, they become persianised and leave their native Pashto behind.

Yeah, but they pass often rather as Scandinavians, russians or germans. The man has a med appearance, the iranian leaning one which I noticed is sort of absent in pashtuns

[Avicenna]

Yeah, but they pass often rather as Scandinavians, russians or germans. The man has a med appearance, the iranian leaning one which I noticed is sort of absent in pashtuns

Lol what are you on about bro. Do you even know any kabulis? I'm certain you don't because you will never make this statement . Many urbanites especially the ones who fled during the 80s and 90s look no different from Iranians. I can post examples however I would rather not as I don't like posting pictures of women etc.

[ChachiMogo]

As an Afghan, I would've never guessed he was Afghan.

[fromjutt]

Atlantid. Wtf he looks like English actor Ian Holm.

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5eee67669964369bbb408167/4:3/w_2475,h_1856,c_limit/Lane-IanHolm.jpg

Look I know there are light Afghan types, but these are the iranic nordic ones which occur naturally there. Except this guy is a strange Atlantid western euro type. Are you sure that he's full Afghan and not an anglo-afghan mix?

everything youev said is false, why did you ignore the indo aryan migration? its such simple explanation LMAO, but yeah the atlantid came through such people, not anglo afghan

[fromjutt]

I don't know, you underestimate pashtuns imo. Many of kabulis in America who can pass as euro Americans are infact pashtuns. However just like everyone in Kabul, they become persianised and leave their native Pashto behind.

dude, you have any new recent Afghans that look western euro or scandanvian or have blond hair?

[masoebu]

He looks more Western than most lighter Iranics and proto-Nordics.

If no Eastern Euro/steppe ancestry my theory is he's a reduced Iranid. Lucky phenotype.

[fromjutt]

He looks more Western than most lighter Iranics and proto-Nordics.

If no Eastern Euro/steppe ancestry my theory is he's a reduced Iranid. Lucky phenotype.

wym if he had no eastern euro or steppe ancestry?

[Avicenna]

He looks more Western than most lighter Iranics and proto-Nordics.

If no Eastern Euro/steppe ancestry my theory is he's a reduced Iranid. Lucky phenotype.

Every Afghan scores steppe ancestry though

[Avicenna]

dude, you have any new recent Afghans that look western euro or scandanvian or have blond hair?

I haven't looked for any but I had this one a while back

https://i.ibb.co/tcDhGtz/Screenshot-20240326-163102.jpg (https://ibb.co/d6DcTqt)
https://i.ibb.co/WGPw1TV/Screenshot-20240401-215059.jpg (https://ibb.co/9cVLjMZ)
https://i.ibb.co/Bt4GMcz/Screenshot-20240320-125304.jpg (https://ibb.co/SPQcC5s)
https://i.ibb.co/jRPgn0y/Screenshot-20240320-125311.jpg (https://ibb.co/nCNzxd7)
https://i.ibb.co/JdynF17/Screenshot-20240320-125256.jpg (https://ibb.co/j5WhZNM)

[thisismyaccount]

Lol what are you on about bro. Do you even know any kabulis? I'm certain you don't because you will never make this statement . Many urbanites especially the ones who fled during the 80s and 90s look no different from Iranians. I can post examples however I would rather not as I don't like posting pictures of women etc.

What I meant is that he has the "western med" face. He looks british, the heavily mediterranean type. I notice iranians look more like med europeans, while afghans look often more like central, north and east european, when referring to the ones that can pass in Europe. Especially compared to pashtuns, who lacks distinct west iranic or med appearances. This Is why I said "iranian type"


That's fine. I haven't seen enough kabulis then, if you're strictly referring to the capital. You did post that video of those kabulis in Los Angeles wedding/party. But then outside kabul, pashtuns lack this med look as far as I noticed. Only very few has this, while I once a while see tajiks with this kind of face.

[Avicenna]

That's fine. I haven't seen enough kabulis then, if you're strictly referring to the capital. You did post that video of those kabulis in Los Angeles wedding/party. But then outside kabul, pashtuns lack this med look as far as I noticed. Only very few has this, while I once a while see tajiks with this kind of face.

That's because most rural afghans including tajiks like shamalis and pashtuns etc are more inbred, i.e. marrying within the same village/tribe etc. People from the city are less inbred and more heterogeneous. Also, environmental factors play a big part. It's not only Kabul but other major cities.

[thisismyaccount]

That's because most rural afghans including tajiks like shamalis and pashtuns etc are more inbred, i.e. marrying within the same village/tribe etc. People from the city are less inbred and more heterogeneous. Also, environmental factors play a big part. It's not only Kabul but other major cities.

Yeah, but even shamalis somehow have some few individuals with med/west iranic leaning faces, despite being persianised pashayis/parachis. This is very absent in pashtuns

[Avicenna]

Yeah, but even shamalis somehow have some few individuals with med/west iranic leaning faces, despite being persianised pashayis/parachis. This is very absent in pashtuns

That is absolutely false. Firstly, if anything I find more med faces among pashtuns than shamali Tajiks, who tend to look more Caucasus/Turkic mixes. To say it's absent among pashtuns is a big claim when I've seen with my own eyes many med looking faces among pashtuns. You seem very narrow minded.

[thisismyaccount]

That is absolutely false. Firstly, if anything I find more med faces among pashtuns than shamali Tajiks, who tend to look more Caucasus/Turkic mixes. To say it's absent among pashtuns is a big claim when I've seen with my own eyes many med looking faces among pashtuns. You seem very narrow minded.

When I say med faces, I mean the type the looks distinctly iranian persian. I notice that more amongst tajiks than pashtuns.

You can go ahead and show me, but I noticed more southwest european and iranian type faces amongst tajiks than pashtuns. It's true that they look more like kavkaz-turkic, but they for some reason got more med looking people too. Pashtuns often look more like their own thing

[Valenman]

Ye,looks white pass in Spain,And probably in more Euro-contrys

[Avicenna]

When I say med faces, I mean the type the looks distinctly iranian persian. I notice that more amongst tajiks than pashtuns.

You can go ahead and show me, but I noticed more southwest european and iranian type faces amongst tajiks than pashtuns. It's true that they look more like kavkaz-turkic, but they for some reason got more med looking people too. Pashtuns often look more like their own thing

I can't be asked to post examples but look at the sohzahdas family ( Afghan Kardashians), they are all pashtuns .

Look at this pashtun family

https://youtu.be/UTIBccX1O_k?si=ro7R3Ut63RnO7gGm

They are from Kandahar, so it's close to home ;)

[thisismyaccount]

I gotta say, the woman constantly talking does look pretty med, iranian type. Her dad as well looks very med. Mom not so much. Her brothers look like regular kandahar pashtuns. I do wonder if they have some qizilbashi ancestry, since I guess theyre from the city? Qizilbashis look pashtun asf quite often, but have several iranian looking peoples.


But as I said, these phenotypes seems pretty rare. I see them less than I see amongst tajiks.

[Avicenna]

I gotta say, the woman constantly talking does look pretty med, iranian type. Her dad as well looks very med. Mom not so much. Her brothers look like regular kandahar pashtuns. I do wonder if they have some qizilbashi ancestry, since I guess theyre from the city? Qizilbashis look pashtun asf quite often, but have several iranian looking peoples.


But as I said, these phenotypes seems pretty rare. I see them less than I see amongst tajiks.

That's because you barely know any real Afghans. These are typical kandahari pashtuns living in America.

I know a few Shia kandaharis and they don't look Iranian at all. In fact they are quite dark.

[thisismyaccount]

I do see afghan pashtuns, med appearance is lacking. I seen their faces on internet as well. Young groomed men. They often look like their own thing.


I seen some few qizilbashis before too, but these pictures here do support what you're saying

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/10/17/photos-afghanistan-kandahar-mass-funeral-for-victims-of-afghan-mosque-attack


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Though the guy in green kameez on look super iranian. He's the type of people I sometimes see amongst shamali tajik. The grandpa next to him in white also sort of look iran persian too with his longer face, and his facial features. But rest of the qizilbashis here dont look med iranian persian to me.



This amount of iranian looking people is already higher than I normally see on videos and pictures of pashtuns

[Bassam Karzeddin]

Honestly i would have guessed he was italian or greek. East med + iranid for the high skull shape. Wouldnt be surprised if he was a leb or iranian.


Atlantid. Wtf he looks like English actor Ian Holm.

Look I know there are light Afghan types, but these are the iranic nordic ones which occur naturally there. Except this guy is a strange Atlantid western euro type. Are you sure that he's full Afghan and not an anglo-afghan mix?

Except that ian was more alpine oriented and had some atlantid.


There are greeks with op s person face and headshape.