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Sovanz
05-29-2024, 02:16 AM
Interesting these girls will be considered mixed In Mexico while our whites actually do look very European.

Ordinary Spaniards according to Valenman

https://statics-maker.llt-services.com/vll/images/2023/08/30/xlarge/b53caaf7-f3e0-432e-b4e6-1a73cc2862d2.jpg

https://statics-maker.llt-services.com/vll/images/2023/08/30/medium-wp/da84c150-60f8-4343-b2a8-1ee54a70d746-752.webp


White mexicans

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-Cjtr8m1QW-IKbGxsB963-6ttrh6VSMvkLWhXrqVRJCPUS5_nKOndAhM&s=10

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-887c06520ad1d2f108009000aad53311

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRf_wIZ2cETGNcuLKqcq9VVyYIVP7gzx Mp0UQ&usqp=CAU

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsJKJCITzgKHuBJ2uBQFigU6qX9axjV JCQ-w&usqp=CAU

Abaddon
05-29-2024, 02:54 AM
Laredo and his autism on its purest form...

tipirneni
05-29-2024, 03:04 AM
If you add ANE rich Amerind with MENA influenced Spanish you get more Central Steppe looking person some times.
https://www.alamy.com/aggregator-api/download?url=https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DCE619/mexican-indian-portrait-mexico-oaxaca-DCE619.jpg

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:10 AM
If you add ANE rich Amerind with MENA influenced Spanish you get more Central Steppe looking person some times.
https://www.alamy.com/aggregator-api/download?url=https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DCE619/mexican-indian-portrait-mexico-oaxaca-DCE619.jpg

Lol funny guy

Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 03:17 AM
In your dreams only.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 03:20 AM
Some people would think he's trolling but he's actually this stupid.

"Our Whites...."

Imagine thinking 'your Whites' are more European looking than the source population for that White population.

Apparently "Atlantids' have a spirit of adventure and collectively went to Mexico.... Mexico, of course, not Peru, or Colombia, etc.

Tsuin
05-29-2024, 03:24 AM
it's just you

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 03:28 AM
Laredo and his autism on its purest form...

Autism is a requirement for registering for the forum.

Valenman
05-29-2024, 03:28 AM
In Spain, until recently, people who were not Atlantids or Nordids were prohibited from emigrating (Anti-wog politics), which is why white people from Latin America see themselves as North-European and generally not Spaniards.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:31 AM
Some people would think he's trolling but he's actually this stupid.

"Our Whites...."

Imagine thinking 'your Whites' are more European looking than the source population for that White population.

Apparently "Atlantids' have a spirit of adventure and collectively went to Mexico.... Mexico, of course, not Peru, or Colombia, etc.

Nope I'm serious, as Queue (Guatemalan) user mentioned already those two girls will be seen as Mexicans where he lives and not Spaniards.

The white mexicans in other the hand look more European.

Abaddon
05-29-2024, 03:33 AM
Autism is a requirement for registering for the forum.

Sure, but Laredo and Oliver are at the top of the autistic pecking order.

Incal
05-29-2024, 03:36 AM
It's just you (as usual).

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 03:38 AM
Nope I'm serious, as Queue (Guatemalan) user mentioned already those two girls will be seen as Mexicans where he lives and not Spaniards.

I don't care what you two think. I care about an objective standard. If they took a DNA test their results are not like yours and Queue.


The white mexicans in other the hand look more European.

There is no particular European look and what's amusing to me is your 'White Mexican' is just someone of Spanish descent.

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 03:46 AM
It's just you (as usual).

This whole schtick is starting to remind me a whole lot of Chindians...

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:54 AM
I don't care what you two think. I care about an objective standard. If they took a DNA test their results are not like yours and Queue.



There is no particular European look and what's amusing to me is your 'White Mexican' is just someone of Spanish descent.

I'm sorry they don't look what we mexicans associate or consider a Spaniard look. Millions of Mexican girls from south west and mexico look like that.

And I doubt they are pure Spaniards. Those chick obviously have something else In their DNA.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:54 AM
This whole schtick is starting to remind me a whole lot of Chindians...

Chindians are both ugly from either their Chinese or indian decent.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:56 AM
Sure, but Laredo and Oliver are at the top of the autistic pecking order.

I'm far from being autistic I just been bored whole day and decided to have some fun ;)

Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 04:10 AM
Nope I'm serious, as Queue (Guatemalan) user mentioned already those two girls will be seen as Mexicans where he lives and not Spaniards.

The white mexicans in other the hand look more European.

You think that way because your "white" standards are Nordic peoples with blue eyes and blonde hair, not the actual whites that went to your country, so all mexicans with similar genetic makeup as these women you posted but their european looks derive from the common spanish looks shown in the OP are just not seen as "white" by you, skewing your perception of what's actually white/european. That skewed perception seems to be prevalent in hispanoamerica but abscent in Brazil, we tend to not view white features through that lens, like for example, this woman is seen as white here but is probably not white by your standards, I presume:

https://capricho.abril.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/maisa-sou-economica-nao-pao-duro.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=650

Queue
05-29-2024, 04:24 AM
You think that way because your "white" standards are Nordic peoples with blue eyes and blonde hair, not the actual whites that went to your country, so all mexicans with similar genetic makeup as these women you posted but their european looks derive from the common spanish looks shown in the OP are just not seen as "white" by you, skewing your perception of what's actually white/european. That skewed perception seems to be prevalent in hispanoamerica but abscent in Brazil, we tend to not view white features through that lens, like for example, this woman is seen as white here but is probably not white by your standards, I presume:

https://capricho.abril.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/maisa-sou-economica-nao-pao-duro.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=650


Probably more of an American thing, more than anything. No need to overthink it. Here in CA, if you speak Spanish or have a non-American accent, maybe a bit swarthier or whatever, you'll get lumped in with brown people. This use to bother me when I was younger (me being Native and lumped in with people of Spanish descent) but now I just find it all hilarious, like who care?

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 04:25 AM
I'm sorry they don't look what we mexicans associate or consider a Spaniard look.

You should apologize to everyone for being retarded. You weren't born retarded. You chose to be retarded.

I've never come across a Mexican with your delusions. You are unique in your retardation.


Millions of Mexican girls from south west and mexico look like that.

Millions.... lolz... you're completely delusional.


And I doubt they are pure Spaniards. Those chick obviously have something else In their DNA.

Pay attention to what Eurafricanid said. He summed it up perfectly.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 04:30 AM
Probably more of an American thing, more than anything. No need to overthink it. Here in CA, if you speak Spanish or have a non-American accent, maybe a bit swarthier or whatever, you'll get lumped in with brown people. This use to bother me when I was younger (me being Native and lumped in with people of Spanish descent) but now I just find it all hilarious, like who care?

Why would you be upset about being lumped in with brown people if you are legitimately brown? You're Guatemalan, dude. Guatemalans natives are brown.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 04:31 AM
You should apologize to everyone for being retarded. You weren't born retarded. You chose to be retarded.

I've never come across a Mexican with your delusions. You are unique in your retardation.



Millions.... lolz... you're completely delusional.



Pay attention to what Eurafricanid said. He summed it up perfectly.

I don't make those rules we are thought by generations of what Spaniards look. Stop being a grumpy grandpa.

Your lack self of control makes It more embarrassing than my supposed "trolling behavior"

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 04:32 AM
You think that way because your "white" standards are Nordic peoples with blue eyes and blonde hair, not the actual whites that went to your country, so all mexicans with similar genetic makeup as these women you posted but their european looks derive from the common spanish looks shown in the OP are just not seen as "white" by you, skewing your perception of what's actually white/european. That skewed perception seems to be prevalent in hispanoamerica but abscent in Brazil, we tend to not view white features through that lens, like for example, this woman is seen as white here but is probably not white by your standards, I presume:

https://capricho.abril.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/maisa-sou-economica-nao-pao-duro.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=650

She will be seen as brown in Mexico too. I already posted examples of what's white In Mexico I don't make those rules.

Queue
05-29-2024, 04:33 AM
Why would you be upset about being lumped in with brown people if you are legitimately brown? You're Guatemalan, dude. Guatemalans natives are brown.

No, I mean that it was kinda upsetting to me being lumped in with European looking people (people of Spanish descent). I saw them as a different people.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 04:35 AM
No, I mean that it was kinda upsetting to me being lumped in with European looking people (people of Spanish descent). I saw them as a different people.

He thinks your average Mexican /Chicana In Southern California looks like someone like Yaritza ( again nothing wrong) but this guy it's just an idiot.

No way those girls will be lumped with the Euro american population just another spics . (Mexicans and Central American)

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 04:38 AM
I don't make those rules we are thought by generations of what Spaniards look. Stop being a grumpy grandpa.

What rules? Who is 'we'? It's you. This is your particular issue. This weird issue defines your presence in this forum, and only your presence at this forum.


Your lack self of control makes It more embarrassing than my supposed "trolling behavior"

You just say random things because you feel the need to say something but you can't actually address what I'm saying and so you speak nonsense as if you think no one will notice. 'Rules... you lack of self-control...'

I didn't say anything about you being a troll. I think you actually believe your shit because you have a serious inferiority complex. You hate your native roots. You've made that clear in the chatbox. You want to be White. Spanish posters like CV would shit on you and this has bothered you. So now Mexico becomes magically 'whiter' than the source population.

It's weird as fuck and unique to you.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 04:42 AM
He thinks your average Mexican /Chicana In Southern California looks like someone like Yaritza ( again nothing wrong) but this guy it's just an idiot.

Don't tell me what I think. I tell you what I think.


No way those girls will be lumped with the Euro american population just another spics . (Mexicans and Central American)

Again, pay attention to what Eurafricanid said.

Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 04:47 AM
She will be seen as brown in Mexico too. I already posted examples of what's white In Mexico I don't make those rules.

Genuine question, whould this woman be seen as brown by mexicans too?

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/83/bf/64/83bf6488adf836d82346abaa1020c5d6.jpg

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 04:47 AM
What rules? Who is 'we'? It's you. This is your particular issue. This weird issue defines your presence in this forum, and only your presence at this forum.



You just say random things because you feel the need to say something but you can't actually address what I'm saying and so you speak nonsense as if you think no one will notice. 'Rules... you lack of self-control...'

I didn't say anything about you being a troll. I think you actually believe your shit because you have a serious inferiority complex. You hate your native roots. You've made that clear in the chatbox. You want to be White. Spanish posters like CV would shit on you and this has bothered you. So now Mexico becomes magically 'whiter' than the source population.

It's weird as fuck and unique to you.

I don't hate my native roots retard otherwise I wouldn't be flooding my genetics all over the forum and no I don't want to look like Napoleon dynamite thanks?

You should go take your sleeping pills and go to bed .

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 04:50 AM
Genuine question, whould this woman be seen as brown by mexicans too?

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/83/bf/64/83bf6488adf836d82346abaa1020c5d6.jpg


In South mexico she will be white and perhaps In Mexico city the rest of the country no.

Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 04:50 AM
In South mexico she will be white and perhaps In Mexico city the rest of the country no.

Interesting...

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 04:51 AM
I don't hate my native roots retard otherwise I wouldn't be flooding my genetics all over the forum and no I don't want to look like Napoleon dynamite thanks?

You said in the chatbox 'thank goodness for my European genes. I don't want to look like an oompah lommpa.' You've been insulting native Mexicans.


You should go take your sleeping pills and go to bed .

You should go back to your psychiatrist and tell him/her the meds aren't working.

You are embarrassing.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 04:56 AM
In South mexico she will be white and perhaps In Mexico city the rest of the country no.

This German woman is only White in the south of Mexico and... perhaps... Mexico City....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henriette_Richter-R%C3%B6hl

This is so absurd.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 04:59 AM
Interesting...

Eurafricanid for the win. I would not have thought Laredo would be that stupid. I overestimated him.

Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 05:02 AM
This German woman is only White in the south of Mexico and... perhaps... Mexico City....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henriette_Richter-R%C3%B6hl

This is so absurd.

The mexican standards are too high, germans can't pass as white unfortunately :(, only the purest whites (mexicans) are allowed.


Average white mexican:
https://st4allthings4p4ci.blob.core.windows.net/allthingshair/allthingshair/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/12/long-blonde-wavy-hair-diane-von-fustemberg-ss14-indigital2.jpg

Richard Alvarez
05-29-2024, 05:13 AM
Interesting these girls will be considered mixed In Mexico while our whites actually do look very European.

Spaniards haven't changed that much compared to the 16th century, so I'd say bullshit.
White Latinos shouldn't be that different from Iberians phenotypically.

Incal
05-29-2024, 05:28 AM
Interesting...

Do you really believe anything that chicano says? He's never left South Central lol

alnortedelsur
05-29-2024, 06:29 AM
Here we go again with the same shit :picard1:

Indarra
05-29-2024, 06:37 AM
I can't understand why you get surprised: Mexico also lies in the Atlantic shores and it's larger than Spain: so Mexico got more Atlantid component than Spain.

It makes sense.

alnortedelsur
05-29-2024, 06:50 AM
The mexican standards are too high, germans can't pass as white unfortunately :(, only the purest whites (mexicans) are allowed.



Average white Mexican, according to Laredo:

https://w0.peakpx.com/wallpaper/679/851/HD-wallpaper-rose-leslie-scottish-actress-beauty-hollywood-girls.jpg

Average Spaniard, according to Laredo:

https://previews.123rf.com/images/mdmfotos/mdmfotos1008/mdmfotos100800119/7475678-t%C3%ADpico-gitana-espa%C3%B1ola-con-clavel-y-ventilador.jpg

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 01:52 PM
Do you really believe anything that chicano says? He's never left South Central lol

He's being sarcastic. The woman he posted is a German actress. Laredo consistently makes a fool of himself.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
05-29-2024, 02:07 PM
One of TA's classics: “Euro-descendants in Latin America are lighter than those in the Old Continent”, followed by several illustrative images of artists or celebrities.

Mixdguy17
05-29-2024, 02:11 PM
Damn bro, not even a week back and already with the -50IQ threads. Helloguys and me even explained once to u how this is not even possible, acrually I've done it twice.

Why are u so stupid bro?

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 02:15 PM
Damn bro, not even a week back and already with the -50IQ threads. Helloguys and me even explained once to u how this is not even possible, acrually I've done it twice.

Why are u so stupid bro?

Because I was bored yesterday and decided to create this thread.

Petalpusher
05-29-2024, 02:23 PM
Maybe adding Amerindian and SSA to Spaniards in Mexico makes them more Atlantid? Ive seen less likely theories on TA lately.

https://i.postimg.cc/x8HQR8QQ/Capture89a.jpg

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 02:28 PM
Maybe adding Amerindian and SSA to Spaniards in Mexico makes them more Atlantid? Ive seen less likely theories on TA lately.

https://i.postimg.cc/x8HQR8QQ/Capture89a.jpg

Or maybe Northern European.

https://i.imgur.com/0AQUtpQ.jpeg

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 02:28 PM
One of TA's classics: “Euro-descendants in Latin America are lighter than those in the Old Continent”, followed by several illustrative images of artists or celebrities.

It's possible, look at my previous post.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 02:32 PM
Or maybe Northern European.

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/0AQUtpQ.jp

Yeah, that 1% across 'millions' of White Mexicans that look 'Atlantid' that no one sees when they go to Mexico except you.

If you were trolling, I'd find it more acceptable because it would mean you're not that stupid. I can handle trolling. I can't handle stupidity.

MrCuriosity
05-29-2024, 02:33 PM
Or maybe Northern European.

https://i.imgur.com/0AQUtpQ.jpeg

She kind of looks white to me, but apparently she is classic mestiza genetically. 1% Northern European will really make a difference!lol

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 02:36 PM
It's possible, look at my previous post.

You got busted by Eurarfricanid as being a fool, dude. It's clear you think anyone swarthy isn't European looking.

Petalpusher
05-29-2024, 02:39 PM
Or maybe Northern European.

I would rather bet on the 6.2% unassigned alien than the 0.6% Scandinavian.

If we all fire up our other neurone i think we can realize, a handful of celebrities look like what they look like because they were selected for being more ""Atlantid"". Maybe im spoiling.

axel.aleman
05-29-2024, 02:42 PM
Damn bro, not even a week back and already with the -50IQ threads. Helloguys and me even explained once to u how this is not even possible, acrually I've done it twice.

Why are u so stupid bro?

Con Gaysien explicarle es por gusto

axel.aleman
05-29-2024, 02:44 PM
I have to admit that Colonel Frank Grimes does an even better job than Cristiano Viejo trolling anti-Spain trolls, CV provoked them but CFG crushes them from the first response

axel.aleman
05-29-2024, 02:46 PM
Some people would think he's trolling but he's actually this stupid.

"Our Whites...."

Imagine thinking 'your Whites' are more European looking than the source population for that White population.

Apparently "Atlantids' have a spirit of adventure and collectively went to Mexico.... Mexico, of course, not Peru, or Colombia, etc.

In reality are both things combined: Gaysien do stupid trolling because he is stupid and autistic, please apprehend him

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
05-29-2024, 02:49 PM
I'm disappointed that we're six pages in and no one has yet posted Guillermo del Toro as a typical Mexican.

Valenman
05-29-2024, 02:50 PM
I'm disappointed that we're six pages in and no one has yet posted Guillermo del Toro as a typical Mexican.

He has recent Spanish ancestry(I think)

axel.aleman
05-29-2024, 02:51 PM
And the conquistadors, colonial settlers did not have more Atlantic influence than the modern Spaniards, on the contrary, some had more North African and Semitic influence than the modern Spaniards (these only have 4% NA in average). Proof of this is my map from 4500 years ago, being 45% Caucasian I am 6% North African (Guanches, Canarian Settlers, Moors and Galician ancestors at the beginning of the 20th century) and 4% Middle Eastern (crypto-Jews)

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
05-29-2024, 02:52 PM
He has recent Spanish ancestry(I think)

You mean that Mexicans who look “Atlantid” are mostly of Spanish descent?! Who would have thought. I guess we learn something new every day.

MrCuriosity
05-29-2024, 02:56 PM
Or maybe Northern European.

https://i.imgur.com/0AQUtpQ.jpeg

I do wonder how do some Mexicans and other Latin Americans look so European as this girl, while being mestizos by real origin.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:00 PM
She kind of looks white to me, but apparently she is classic mestiza genetically. 1% Northern European will really make a difference!lol

She's also 6% black, it's her Anglo Northern European that whitens her for sure. ;)

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:27 PM
You mean that Mexicans who look “Atlantid” are mostly of Spanish descent?! Who would have thought. I guess we learn something new every day.

Almost no one has recent Spanish ancestry In Mexico unless they are upper class mexicans who are 5% of the population or less.

It's possible for mestizos to look like the girl I posted as long the parents are the same . One of my cousins for example Is blonde and green eyed and she married a stereotypical looking Mexican and the daughter came out looking exactly like my cousin.

Richard Alvarez
05-29-2024, 03:33 PM
And the conquistadors, colonial settlers did not have more Atlantic influence than the modern Spaniards, on the contrary, some had more North African and Semitic influence than the modern Spaniards (these only have 4% NA in average). Proof of this is my map from 4500 years ago, being 45% Caucasian I am 6% North African (Guanches, Moors and Galician ancestors at the beginning of the 20th century) and 4% Middle Eastern (crypto-Jews)

Also, many of the conquistadores were from Extremadura and Andalusia, the darkest and most Med-influenced regions of Spain.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:34 PM
Also, many of the conquistadores were from Extremadura and Andalusia, the darkest and most Med-influenced regions of Spain.

The Spanish admixture In Mexico Is mainly Castilian and Andalusian follow by Basque .

Incal
05-29-2024, 03:53 PM
One of TA's classics: “Euro-descendants in Latin America are lighter than those in the Old Continent”, followed by several illustrative images of artists or celebrities.

Lie-redo has significantly damaged our rep on this forum.




Damn bro, not even a week back and already with the -50IQ threads. Helloguys and me even explained once to u how this is not even possible, acrually I've done it twice.

Why are u so stupid bro?

I think instead of stupid per se, he got some sort of PSI block that doesn't let him see the truth, his mind lives trapped in a bubble made of twisted facts.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 03:56 PM
Lie-redo has significantly damaged our rep on this forum.





I think instead of stupid per se, he got some sort of PSI block that doesn't let him see the truth, his mind lives trapped in a bubble made of twisted facts.

The one who's stupid it's you, I just said I'm having fun since I'm no longer working thus I have all day and I get bored.

Mixdguy17
05-29-2024, 03:58 PM
Because I was bored yesterday and decided to create this thread.

Truth is you are just retarded and have too much time on your hands.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 04:00 PM
Truth is you are just retarded and have too much time on your hands.

I do, which that's why I'm already looking for a job something that passionates me so I can keep my mind busy.

Incal
05-29-2024, 04:07 PM
Truth is you are just retarded and have too much time on your hands.

Average TA poster lol

Mixdguy17
05-29-2024, 04:12 PM
I do, which that's why I'm already looking for a job something that passionates me so I can keep my mind busy.

Glad u agree

FinalFlash
05-29-2024, 04:29 PM
I think it's just you Laredo.

Surely there's no way a mixed population consisting of a plethora of various ethnic groups/races is more Atlantid than one of, if not the most Atlantid of all populations in the world.

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 05:16 PM
Without exactly wishing to endorse Laredo's trolling and exaggerating, what I will say is that the distinction between a Euro-Mestizo and a darker-than-average Southern European can be rather more blurry than people realise. This being said, I'd say that no more than 10-20% (take your pick) of Spaniards are in the "swarthy and ambiguous" category, with the majority ranging from Iker Casillas-like to Carles Puigdemont-like in appearance, along with a substantial minority of lighter types too. And no Laredo, Whites in neither Mexico nor any other Latin American country are majority light-haired and light-eyed. Saying that most White Mexicans look like your OP examples is a bit like saying that most high-caste Indians look like Hrithik Roshan and Neil Mitin Mukesh.

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 05:19 PM
If I was a Mexican Mestizo I'd probably just accept that I'm mixed race and that most people don't view me as any more European than Amerindian, and I'd move on with my life and probably marry a Latina with a big ass.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 05:21 PM
Almost no one has recent Spanish ancestry In Mexico unless they are upper class mexicans who are 5% of the population or less.

It's possible for mestizos to look like the girl I posted as long the parents are the same . One of my cousins for example Is blonde and green eyed and she married a stereotypical looking Mexican and the daughter came out looking exactly like my cousin.

You really are ignorant. Mestizos can look like that girl because how you look is a genetic lottery. It's why you have people who may look very different from their siblings. You and your siblings come from the same parents but don't necessarily receive the same genes; hence why there is variation between siblings.

Also, Andalusians and Extremadurans played the biggest demographic role in conquering and settling in Mexico. It's why Mexicans (and other Latin Americans) don't have the 'Spanish lisp." People north of Andalusia do.

You're just dumb and ignorant, dude.

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 05:23 PM
Mestizos can look like that girl because how you look is a genetic lottery.

True - in my mother's family, even siblings can look very different from each other as a result of this.

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 05:25 PM
I know one family where the dad is Mexican (I'm assuming Mestizo - looks like one, at least) and the mom is some sort of white American mix, and between the 5 kids you have everything ranging from borderline fruit picker to average castizo to white brunette.

Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 05:30 PM
Without exactly wishing to endorse Laredo's trolling and exaggerating, what I will say is that the distinction between a Euro-Mestizo and a darker-than-average Southern European can be rather more blurry than people realise. This being said, I'd say that no more than 10-20% (take your pick) of Spaniards are in the "swarthy and ambiguous" category, with the majority ranging from Iker Casillas-like to Carles Puigdemont-like in appearance, along with a substantial minority of lighter types too. And no Laredo, Whites in neither Mexico nor any other Latin American country are majority light-haired and light-eyed.

I think I'd be very good to clarify that it's the Euro-Mestizos that look like darker-than-average Southern European, not the other way around, it's very weird that some people think that there's this "latino" look, outside of the Amerindian influence, which is the only major thing that separates LATAM from Southern Europeans.
I've seen some people think that Ariana Grande looked "latina" before, it's not that she looks "latina" it's the latinos that look like her, because they have Southern European ancestry.

axel.aleman
05-29-2024, 05:32 PM
Without exactly wishing to endorse Laredo's trolling and exaggerating, what I will say is that the distinction between a Euro-Mestizo and a darker-than-average Southern European can be rather more blurry than people realise. This being said, I'd say that no more than 10-20% (take your pick) of Spaniards are in the "swarthy and ambiguous" category, with the majority ranging from Iker Casillas-like to Carles Puigdemont-like in appearance, along with a substantial minority of lighter types too. And no Laredo, Whites in neither Mexico nor any other Latin American country are majority light-haired and light-eyed. Saying that most White Mexicans look like your OP examples is a bit like saying that most high-caste Indians look like Hrithik Roshan and Neil Mitin Mukesh.

Ya te explicado en varias ocasiones que algunos españoles están bronceados por adaptación al clima mediterráneo, este es otro de tus intentos finos de oscurecer a España

axel.aleman
05-29-2024, 05:34 PM
If I was a Mexican Mestizo I'd probably just accept that I'm mixed race and that most people don't view me as any more European than Amerindian, and I'd move on with my life and probably marry a Latina with a big ass.

You are not insane as the OP is

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 05:38 PM
Ya te explicado en varias ocasiones que algunos españoles están bronceados por adaptación al clima mediterráneo, este es otro de tus intentos finos de oscurecer a España

Climatic adaptation is only one element of it - Spain has a history of different invasions and migrations (no, not just Moors, but also Phoenicians and Carthaginians, in addition to all the European groups that have settled there). And I said that the percentage of very dark/off-white Spaniards is not as high as some think.

Valenman
05-29-2024, 06:19 PM
You mean that Mexicans who look “Atlantid” are mostly of Spanish descent?! Who would have thought. I guess we learn something new every day.

No, what I mean is that Guillermo Toro is not a pure Colonial Mexican, he has Spanish grandparents too

alnortedelsur
05-29-2024, 06:23 PM
I think I'd be very good to clarify that it's the Euro-Mestizos that look like darker-than-average Southern European, not the other way around, it's very weird that some people think that there's this "latino" look, outside of the Amerindian influence, which is the only major thing that separates LATAM from Southern Europeans.
I've seen some people think that Ariana Grande looked "latina" before, it's not that she looks "latina" it's the latinos that look like her, because they have Southern European ancestry.

There are many (lots) of Euro-mestizos (more so castizos) who are lightish (skin, hair, eyes) and even would be as light as the lightest Spaniards, and not even dark for central European standards. I think they can display the same ranges of pigmentation (from swarthy to light) as full Europeans, regardless of having some more or less visible distinctive features because of their Amerindian mix. That Euro-mestizos (and specially castizos) are always supposed to be as swarthy as the swarthiest southern Europeans is no more than a stupid myth.

Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 06:36 PM
There are many (lots) of Euro-mestizos (more so castizos) who are lightish (skin, hair, eyes) and even would be as light as the lightest Spaniards, and not even dark for central European standards. I think they can display the same ranges of pigmentation (from swarthy to light) as full Europeans, regardless of having some more or less visible distinctive features because of their Amerindian mix. That Euro-mestizos (and specially castizos) are always supposed to be as swarthy as the swarthiest southern Europeans is no more than a stupid myth.

Yes, for sure, what I was trying to say is that the Euro-mestizos with dark features recieved those darker "latino" non-Amerindian features from the Spaniards.

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 06:38 PM
There are many (lots) of Euro-mestizos (more so castizos) who are lightish (skin, hair, eyes) and even would be as light as the lightest Spaniards, and not even dark for central European standards. I think they can display the same ranges of pigmentation (from swarthy to light) as full Europeans, regardless of having some more or less visible distinctive features because of their Amerindian mix. That Euro-mestizos (and specially castizos) are always supposed to be as swarthy as the swarthiest southern Europeans is no more than a stupid myth.

Aren't you ironically and unintentionally endorsing Laredo's claim? That despite their Amerindian admixture, many Mexicans can be quite light, more so than quite a few Spaniards themselves? (I think he is exaggerating significantly).

Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 06:40 PM
Aren't you ironically and unintentionally endorsing Laredo's claim? That despite their Amerindian admixture, many Mexicans can be quite light, more so than quite a few Spaniards themselves? (I think he is exaggerating significantly).

I think what he was saying is that the Euro-mestizos can be as light and as dark as their european ancestors.

Valenman
05-29-2024, 07:04 PM
Without exactly wishing to endorse Laredo's trolling and exaggerating, what I will say is that the distinction between a Euro-Mestizo and a darker-than-average Southern European can be rather more blurry than people realise. This being said, I'd say that no more than 10-20% (take your pick) of Spaniards are in the "swarthy and ambiguous" category, with the majority ranging from Iker Casillas-like to Carles Puigdemont-like in appearance, along with a substantial minority of lighter types too. And no Laredo, Whites in neither Mexico nor any other Latin American country are majority light-haired and light-eyed. Saying that most White Mexicans look like your OP examples is a bit like saying that most high-caste Indians look like Hrithik Roshan and Neil Mitin Mukesh.

The girls that Laredo listed do not have atypical features nor are they swarties, at most somewhat darker than average, they are Apine meds, one of the most common phenotypes in Spain, but they would not even be a joke, they would be included in the 15% of the darkest ones. Maybe They would perhaps pass by 10-20% most Euro-shifted mexicans,I don't know

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 07:33 PM
You really are ignorant. Mestizos can look like that girl because how you look is a genetic lottery. It's why you have people who may look very different from their siblings. You and your siblings come from the same parents but don't necessarily receive the same genes; hence why there is variation between siblings.

Also, Andalusians and Extremadurans played the biggest demographic role in conquering and settling in Mexico. It's why Mexicans (and other Latin Americans) don't have the 'Spanish lisp." People north of Andalusia do.

You're just dumb and ignorant, dude.

I'm well aware of this and how genetics plays a random role, I also think depends on the Spanish admixture they have If they have a very Berberid Andalusian admixture + Amerindian obviously the mestizo Isn't going to be very European looking.....


Now If you have Basque or Catalan admixture would probably make a big difference I ve Mexicans looking Nordic with just 65% Spanish.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 07:34 PM
The girls that Laredo listed do not have atypical features nor are they swarties, at most somewhat darker than average, they are Apine meds, one of the most common phenotypes in Spain, but they would not even be a joke, they would be included in the 15% of the darkest ones. Maybe They would perhaps pass by 10-20% most Euro-shifted mexicans,I don't know

It's definitely higher at least 30% if we are talking about looks and not genetics.

Damião de Góis
05-29-2024, 07:51 PM
One of TA's classics: “Euro-descendants in Latin America are lighter than those in the Old Continent”, followed by several illustrative images of artists or celebrities.

One of TA's leading anthropologists, Dr Tooting Carmen, has already addressed this topic multiple times, and it's not just the spanish but it's a new world vs old world thing in general:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?282732-Do-New-World-Whites-tend-to-be-fairer-complexioned-than-their-Old-World-counterparts-If-so-why

Jingle Bell
05-29-2024, 08:59 PM
In some smaller and more isolated communities its possible to have a founder effect, so in that rare case, its possible to a group A, genetically derived from group B have particular traits that are uncommon in their source population, despite begin derived exclusevily from source B, but that generally happen in small groups and isolated cases, not in a country with almost 500 years of multiple waves of Spanish imigration with 130M of habitantes.
So, no. Spanish derived Mexicans are not lighter than Spaniards, its more probable to Spaniards be lighter anyay bcs also the imigration of conversos and moriscos to colonial Mexico.

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 09:08 PM
I don't think he is trolling. I think he really just wants to be an Iberian Cracka.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 09:14 PM
I don't think he is trolling. I think he really just wants to be an Iberian Cracka.

Nah.


And very Cracka indeed:rolleyes:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShi7B1kGIB-d_2FzjVACxudPPw1nRGa-7qUw&usqp=CAU

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDJ8d4Q2aNZLxOQlFzlxpYtRoxB6RlO eEkKg&usqp=CAU

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 10:43 PM
I'm well aware of this and how genetics plays a random role, I also think depends on the Spanish admixture they have If they have a very Berberid Andalusian admixture + Amerindian obviously the mestizo Isn't going to be very European looking.....


Now If you have Basque or Catalan admixture would probably make a big difference I ve Mexicans looking Nordic with just 65% Spanish.

What about swarthy Germans? I find it amusing you haven't addressed that embarrassing post.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 10:44 PM
What about swarthy Germans? I find it amusing you haven't addressed that embarrassing post.

She probably isn't fully German and has Turkish roots I've never seen a German looking like that..

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 10:45 PM
Nah.


And very Cracka indeed:rolleyes:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShi7B1kGIB-d_2FzjVACxudPPw1nRGa-7qUw&usqp=CAU

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDJ8d4Q2aNZLxOQlFzlxpYtRoxB6RlO eEkKg&usqp=CAU

Those are perfectly normal European Mediterranean types.

Why do you want Spaniards to be Amerindian so bad?

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 10:51 PM
Those are perfectly normal European Mediterranean types.

Why do you want Spaniards to be Amerindian so bad?

I know they are European meds but they don't look when I think of Europeans. And no they can't pass pure Mexicans.


This Is how they look.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DWjsCts1Jpg/maxresdefault.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGA5TBoOPTPb8IAipqIRs0Hw4aMzBFD-bR8Q&usqp=CAU

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 10:52 PM
She probably isn't fully German and has Turkish roots I've never seen a German looking like that..

She is fully German. She's a well known actress and so her background is known.

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 10:52 PM
She probably isn't fully German and has Turkish roots I've never seen a German looking like that..

Not all Germans are blond blue eyed Nazi wank fantasies. In fact, although Germans are certainly blonder than the British as a whole, their darker types if anything can look more 'extreme' than most dark Britons, such as Hansi Muller and Jonas Kaufmann.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 10:54 PM
I know they are European meds but they don't look when I think of Europeans. And no they can't pass pure Mexicans.


This Is how they look.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DWjsCts1Jpg/maxresdefag

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGA5TBoOPTPb8IAipqIRs0Hw4aMzBFD-bR8Q&usqp=C]

Laredo the Mestizo who thought a German woman would be seen as not White in much of Mexico because she's swarthy is the go to guy on who looks European.

Incal
05-29-2024, 10:56 PM
Now If you have Basque or Catalan admixture would probably make a big difference I ve Mexicans looking Nordic with just 65% Spanish.

xD



One of TA's leading anthropologists, Dr Tooting Carmen, has already addressed this topic multiple times, and it's not just the spanish but it's a new world vs old world thing in general:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?282732-Do-New-World-Whites-tend-to-be-fairer-complexioned-than-their-Old-World-counterparts-If-so-why

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Incal
05-29-2024, 11:01 PM
Laredo the Mestizo who thought a German woman would be seen as not White in much of Mexico because she's swarthy is the go to guy on who looks European.

Exactly, I'd say Laredo is the most clueless member on this forum. Second to Meade maybe.




Why do you want Spaniards to be Amerindian so bad?

To not feel that mixed is my guess.

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 11:05 PM
Exactly, I'd say Laredo is the most clueless member on this forum. Second to Meade maybe.




To not feel that mixed is my guess.

You shut your mouth. How dare you forget about Loliver and that weird Chindians guy.

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 11:06 PM
I know they are European meds but they don't look when I think of Europeans. And no they can't pass pure Mexicans.


This Is how they look.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DWjsCts1Jpg/maxresdefault.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGA5TBoOPTPb8IAipqIRs0Hw4aMzBFD-bR8Q&usqp=CAU

Man idk what to tell you besides your mental perception of Europeans being Sven Svensson doesn't change the fact that pretty much outside of Scandinavian lots of them have dark hair and tan skin.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 11:06 PM
xD




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you have down syndrome or something?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?94328-Harnizos-en-23andme&p=3905531&viewfull=1#post3905531

Incal
05-29-2024, 11:16 PM
Man idk what to tell you besides your mental perception of Europeans being Sven Svensson doesn't change the fact that pretty much outside of Scandinavian lots of them have dark hair and tan skin.

Well, most low class amurricans are nordicists from what I've seen.




Did you have down syndrome or something?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?94328-Harnizos-en-23andme&p=3905531&viewfull=1#post3905531

It says "mexican-american", not trustworthy. Let's stick to people born in Mexico.

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 11:18 PM
RMuller used to also claim what Laredo is claiming, due to Mexico allegedly having lots of Basque ancestry. xD

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 11:23 PM
Well, most low class amurricans are nordicists from what I've seen.





It says "mexican-american", not trustworthy. Let's stick to people born in Mexico.

Alguna vez as escuchado el termino los mexicanos nacemos donde se nos da la GANA?

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 11:24 PM
RMuller used to also claim what Laredo is claiming, due to Mexico allegedly having lots of Basque ancestry. xD

No I never claimed that, Basque admixture Is the least of all mexicans. Your average Mexican Spanish ancestry Is Castilian and Andalusian.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 11:31 PM
RMuller used to also claim what Laredo is claiming, due to Mexico allegedly having lots of Basque ancestry. xD

Also, he would go on about Sephardic ancestry in Mexico, which I found humorous. Apparently a mixed Levantine/Iberian influence helped create Nordic looking White Mexicans... cuz... reasons....

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 11:41 PM
Mestizos are actually white people because uhh Spaniards are swarthy and Amerindians are actually white because of ANE so when there are Nordic looking Mexicans of 65% Spanish DNA this means uhhh *hits blunt* btw I don't wanna be white or anything

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 11:43 PM
No I never claimed that, Basque admixture Is the least of all mexicans. Your average Mexican Spanish ancestry Is Castilian and Andalusian.

What I meant was that his explanation for White Mexicans allegedly being lighter than Spaniards was them being disproportionately Basque. Both of you believe that White Mexicans are lighter than Spaniards, but your reasonings are different.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 11:44 PM
Mestizos are actually white people because uhh Spaniards are swarthy and Amerindians are actually white because of ANE so when there are Nordic looking Mexicans of 65% Spanish DNA this means uhhh *hits blunt* btw I don't wanna be white or anything

I was very sarcastic and just making a silly comparation with the Filipinos. But yes I don't want to be white why would I? I'm an attractive Latino and nice body height too?

Did you really think I'm a self hater?

Beowulf
05-29-2024, 11:44 PM
:popcorn:

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 11:46 PM
What I meant was that his explanation for White Mexicans allegedly being lighter than Spaniards was them being disproportionately Basque. Both of you believe that White Mexicans are lighter than Spaniards, but your reasonings are different.

Because it's true so why you sudacas so butt hurt over this?

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 11:46 PM
I was very sarcastic and just making a silly comparation with the Filipinos. But yes I don't want to be white why would I? I'm an attractive Latino and nice body height too?

Did you really think I'm a self hater?

Come on, at the very least you are ambivalent if not downright disdainful towards the Amerindian element and admixture in Mexico.

Incal
05-29-2024, 11:49 PM
Also, he would go on about Sephardic ancestry in Mexico, which I found humorous. Apparently a mixed Levantine/Iberian influence helped create Nordic looking White Mexicans... cuz... reasons....

lol that was the funniest/stupidest thing he used to say xD I think that's the reason he comes back with a different user every time: to not be held accountable for all the bullshit he said in the past.

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 11:49 PM
:popcorn:


Because it's true so why you sudacas so butt hurt over this?

No we are not. Like I have said before, there is nothing special or unique about the level of European admixture in Mexico. In fact, not only is it lower than in the Southern Cone, but also Costa Rica, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Cuba and Puerto Rico. Just because Mexico is not Guatemala does not make it Uruguay either.

Italicus
05-29-2024, 11:49 PM
:laugh:

vanillachai
05-29-2024, 11:49 PM
Dats right children's we used to be Nordic and shit. We invented being white and made Iberian Crackas and went all round de world spreading our DNA with them fine ass Aztec shawties. We used the power of our minds to create White Spaniards and we even use to fly. I ain't bullshittin' you!

Well what the fuck happened Laredo? Why we be brown and you be out coping all day?

Cuz that muthafuckin Incal came and oppressed us and took away our special powers and minds. Now get y'all asses to bed!

Incal
05-29-2024, 11:52 PM
Mestizos are actually white people because uhh Spaniards are swarthy and Amerindians are actually white because of ANE so when there are Nordic looking Mexicans of 65% Spanish DNA this means uhhh *hits blunt* btw I don't wanna be white or anything

LMAO you won this trend.

Beowulf
05-29-2024, 11:52 PM
Dats right children's we used to be Nordic and shit. We invented being white and made Iberian Crackas and went all round de world spreading our DNA with them fine ass Aztec shawties. We used the power of our minds to create White Spaniards and we even use to fly. I ain't bullshittin' you!

Well what the fuck happened Laredo? Why we be brown and you be out coping all day?

Cuz that muthafuckin Incal came and oppressed us and took away our special powers and minds. Now get y'all asses to bed!

That's a very deep lore

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 11:53 PM
No we are not. Like I have said before, there is nothing special or unique about the level of European admixture in Mexico. In fact, not only is it lower than in the Southern Cone, but also Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Cuba and Puerto Rico. Just because Mexico is not Guatemala does not make it Uruguay either.

Again Mexico Isn't Southern Mexico the Central or Northern which a good proportion of the population Isn't any different from your "beloved Colombia"

gixajo
05-29-2024, 11:53 PM
:curtain:

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 11:55 PM
:curtain:

Estos si que estan bien pendejos solo porque Les digo sus verdades para que quiero verme como alguien como Guillermo del Toro sin colo solo mi aspecto es lo suficiente para ligarme a todas las españolas calientes en españa.

Aunque sinceramente no me gusta la vagina.

Tooting Carmen
05-29-2024, 11:56 PM
Again Mexico Isn't Southern Mexico the Central or Northern which a good proportion of the population Isn't any different from your "beloved Colombia"

I am not saying it is (though I would still say it is at least marginally more Amerindian than Andean Colombia). The difference is I don't hate on Afro-Colombians or seek to minimise their input and contribution to national life like you do with Amerindian Mexicans.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-29-2024, 11:57 PM
Because it's true so why you sudacas so butt hurt over this?

"It's true because I say it's true."

Now we see the other side where Laredo believes he's superior to other Latin Americans, which is based on his perception of Mexico's European ancestry.

Sovanz
05-29-2024, 11:58 PM
I am not saying it is (though I would still say it is at least marginally more Amerindian than Andean Colombia). The difference is I don't hate on Afro-Colombians or seek to minimise their input and contribution to national life like you do with Amerindian Mexicans.

In Jalisco or Western mexico which Is the Mexico I'm aware I only see mestizos and whites never amerindians they are actually looked down because no natives exists there anymore.


So the whole South Mexico bullshit you guys spread It's a Mexico the Is unknown to me.


Lo siento se tubo que decir y se hablo la verdad!

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:01 AM
In Jalisco or Western mexico which Is the Mexico I'm aware I only see mestizos and whites never amerindians they are actually looked down because no natives exists there anymore.


So the whole South Mexico bullshit you guys spread It's a Mexico the Is unknown to me.


Lo siento se tubo que decir y se hablo la verdad!

But you look down not just on pure(ish) Amerindians, but also Mestizos with strong Amerindian influence. Even in Northern Mexico, the percentage of people who look like your OP celebrities is well into single digits and deep down you know it.

Incal
05-30-2024, 12:04 AM
No we are not. Like I have said before, there is nothing special or unique about the level of European admixture in Mexico. In fact, not only is it lower than in the Southern Cone, but also Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Cuba and Puerto Rico. Just because Mexico is not Guatemala does not make it Uruguay either.

Indeed. If we had to compare, Mexico is on the most amerind spectrum of Latin America rather than the opposite. But try to get that into his thick skull... He'll probably say 70% of Mexico's population lives in the aryan north of the country, that's another one of his favorite arguments lol

Really, we should make a thread with Lie-redo's whack theories, that'd be tons of fun.

Edit: He beat me to it LMAO

gixajo
05-30-2024, 12:06 AM
Estos si que estan bien pendejos solo porque Les digo sus verdades para que quiero verme como alguien como Guillermo del Toro sin colo solo mi aspecto es lo suficiente para ligarme a todas las españolas calientes en españa.

Aunque sinceramente no me gusta la vagina.

No sé que te está pasando pero nosotros no tenemos la culpa.

No creo que lo que expresa el título del thread constituya ninguna verdad.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:15 AM
Indeed. If we had to compare, Mexico is on the most amerind spectrum of Latin America rather than the opposite. But try to get that into his thick skull... He'll probably say 70% of Mexico's population lives in the aryan north of the country, that's another one of his favorite arguments lol

Really, we should make a thread with Lie-redo's whack theories, that'd be tons of fun.

Edit: He beat me to it LMAO

You are the one who want to insist Mexico is racially like Peru did you know among mexicans from Mexico looking Peruvian Is synonym of ugly?

Also Jalisco Its the most populated state of the West which again you also ignored.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:17 AM
But you look down not just on pure(ish) Amerindians, but also Mestizos with strong Amerindian influence. Even in Northern Mexico, the percentage of people who look like your OP celebrities is well into single digits and deep down you know it.

No I don't look down at anyone. I hate stereotypes that's all.

Now enough with your bullshit.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:18 AM
You are the one who want to insist Mexico is racially like Peru did you know among mexicans from Mexico looking Peruvian Is synonym of ugly?

Also Jalisco Its the most populated state of the West which again you also ignored.

No, he is not saying Mexico is just like Peru, though I would say it is more similar to Peru than to Argentina, whether you like it or not.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:20 AM
No I don't look down at anyone. I hate stereotypes that's all.

Now enough with your bullshit.

You might claim to be a luvvy-duvvy humanitarian, but it doesn't take much for your racism and OWD to come out. You are in many ways not much different to SK.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:20 AM
No, he is not saying Mexico is just like Peru, though I would say it is more similar to Peru than to Argentina, whether you like it or not.

No it's actually between, your ordinary Mexican in Mexico isn't 15-25% European like your average Peruvian.


Enough with your shit!!

vanillachai
05-30-2024, 12:22 AM
You might claim to be a luvvy-duvvy humanitarian, but it doesn't take much for your racism and OWD to come out. You are in many ways not much different to SK.

All I ask of Laredo is that he admits that this comes from a place of wanting to be white.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:24 AM
No it's actually between, your ordinary Mexican in Mexico isn't 15-25% European like your average Peruvian.


Enough with your shit!!

I thought Peru was more like 30-35% overall? Anyway, while not like Guatemala or Peru, Mexico is still one of the most heavily Amerindian-admixed countries in the Americas.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:24 AM
All I ask of Laredo is that he admits that this comes from a place of wanting to be white.

I already told you I do not why would I? I'm attractive. It's not like I'm your typical Shrek modafucker that just crossed the border.

Enough already.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:25 AM
I thought Peru was more like 30-35% overall? Anyway, while not like Guatemala or Peru, Mexico is still one of the most heavily Amerindian-admixed countries in the Americas.

Peru 35% ? European JAJAJAJA. .

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:26 AM
Peru 35% ? European JAJAJAJA. .

It is definitely more European-admixed than Guatemala or Bolivia.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:29 AM
It is definitely more European-admixed than Guatemala or Bolivia.

Peru Is even less European admixed as whole than central America and Central America it's less white than Mexico without exception Costa Rica (same as other Mexican regions)

What makes you think Mexico Is comparable with Peru are you on Cocaine?

vanillachai
05-30-2024, 12:30 AM
I already told you I do not why would I? I'm attractive. It's not like I'm your typical Shrek modafucker that just crossed the border.

Enough already.

If you don't look down on them then why are they Shrek motherfuckers and beautiful people are Mediterranean? Both in your words.

I might not think that Amerindians are the most beautiful people on earth but you are quite harsh about them. It comes from somewhere.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:31 AM
Peru Is even less European admixed as whole than central America and Central America it's less white than Mexico without exception Costa Rica (same as other Mexican regions)

What makes you think Mexico Is comparable with Peru are you on Cocaine?

I did not say it is. I said that, in terms of Amerindian admixture, it is at least a little more similar to Peru than to Argentina.

Colonel Frank Grimes
05-30-2024, 12:32 AM
I already told you I do not why would I? I'm attractive. It's not like I'm your typical Shrek modafucker that just crossed the border.

Enough already.

Those 'Shrek modafuckers' share your blood. Why do you deny them?

Incal
05-30-2024, 12:37 AM
No, he is not saying Mexico is just like Peru, though I would say it is more similar to Peru than to Argentina, whether you like it or not.

This.



All I ask of Laredo is that he admits that this comes from a place of wanting to be white.

Should we make a petition on Change.org?

vanillachai
05-30-2024, 12:38 AM
Maybe if Laredo was wired to appreciate Latinas with big asses he wouldn't be so spiteful about having Amerindian blood.

axel.aleman
05-30-2024, 12:40 AM
You might claim to be a luvvy-duvvy humanitarian, but it doesn't take much for your racism and OWD to come out. You are in many ways not much different to SK.

Gaysien is much worse than SK, SK is a fool that don't accept their mixed race condition but don't troll you without reason and aren't stupid and autistic as Gaysien

Abaddon
05-30-2024, 12:40 AM
Maybe if Laredo was wired to appreciate Latinas with big asses he wouldn't be so spiteful about having Amerindian blood.

As a Latin-american, I'd say latinas are overrated and not that good.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:41 AM
Maybe if Laredo was wired to appreciate Latinas with big asses he wouldn't be so spiteful about having Amerindian blood.

I can tell you are quite new on this , I've said many times Amerindian blood beautifies Harnizas and Castizas.

Spaniard women have horsey faces not my thing.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:41 AM
Gaysien is much worse than SK, SK is a fool that don't accept their mixed race condition but don't troll you without reason and aren't stupid and autistic as Gaysien

Says the Zambo who still day dreams of looking more white and attractive than me:rolleyes:

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:48 AM
Says the Zambo who still day dreams of looking more white and attractive than me:rolleyes:

BS. axel may be right-wing on political and economic issues, but when it comes to race he is actually one of the least White-obsessed Latin American forum members.

vanillachai
05-30-2024, 12:51 AM
As a Latin-american, I'd say latinas are overrated and not that good.

And if I was a man born in Latin America I'd have alligator shoes and kids I don't know about.

Abaddon
05-30-2024, 12:52 AM
And if I was a man born in Latin America I'd have alligator shoes and kids I don't know about.

Fortunately that's not my case, i despise latam people in general :laugh:

vanillachai
05-30-2024, 12:53 AM
Fortunately that's not my case, i despise latam people in general :laugh:

The Apricity - A Self-Hating Latin-American Cultural Community

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:55 AM
Fortunately that's not my case, i despise latam people in general :laugh:

Charming...

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:56 AM
BS. axel may be right-wing on political and economic issues, but when it comes to race he is actually one of the least White-obsessed Latin American forum members.

He definitely Is , he just isn't like me I don't care anyone what will thinks I say post the fuck I want period I'm not here to pleased anyone.

I'm know what I'm you are the weirdo who thinks I think I want to be white or something I've always view myself as mestizo and that's what I'm but my amerindian features are graciled because of the Spanish contribution by 17-19% points.

Abaddon
05-30-2024, 12:57 AM
The Apricity - A Self-Hating Latin-American Cultural Community

I'd call it "Wisdom" rather than "Self-Hating", but ok...

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 12:58 AM
He definitely Is , he just isn't like me I don't care anyone what will thinks I say post the fuck I want period I'm not here to pleased anyone.

I'm know what I'm you are the weirdo who thinks I think I want to be white or something I've always view myself as mestizo and that's what I'm but my amerindian features are graciled because of the Spanish contribution by 17-19% points.

You may not be a White wannabe anymore, but you certainly used to be, even one of your nicks was "Mexinol". And it is undeniable that you look down on Amerindians and strongly Amerindian-admixed Mestizos.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 12:58 AM
The Apricity - A Self-Hating Latin-American Cultural Community

Im not self hater, and in regards to your previous comment I talk crap fairly about everyone pure amerindians to me are ugly as abos and Filipinos.

Respect my beauty standards just I do with yours.

Incal
05-30-2024, 12:59 AM
Maybe if Laredo was wired to appreciate Latinas with big asses he wouldn't be so spiteful about having Amerindian blood.

He'd probably be more spiteful since big booty Latinas are the product of SSA or Med admixture xD Amerindian women are as flat as their long distant Asian cousins.

vanillachai
05-30-2024, 01:00 AM
Respect my beauty standards just I do with yours.

90% of this is banter because this is the first time in weeks that this website has finally had a good thread.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 01:01 AM
Gaysien is much worse than SK, SK is a fool that don't accept their mixed race condition but don't troll you without reason and aren't stupid and autistic as Gaysien

Both are obnoxious and deluded, only that the way they show it isn't quite the same.

axel.aleman
05-30-2024, 01:03 AM
BS. axel may be right-wing on political and economic issues, but when it comes to race he is actually one of the least White-obsessed Latin American forum members.

I bet 100 dollars that if I were castizo he would still call myself a zambo for being Panamanian just as he called Juan Lacas black for being Cuban even though, unlike him, he had no trace of black blood (Gaysien has 3% and Juan Lacas 0%)

Incal
05-30-2024, 01:04 AM
As a Latin-american, I'd say latinas are overrated and not that good.

Were you not supposed to be russian or something like that?



You may not be a White wannabe anymore, but you certainly used to be, even one of your nicks was "Mexinol". And it is undeniable that you look down on Amerindians and strongly Amerindian-admixed Mestizos.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

axel.aleman
05-30-2024, 01:06 AM
And Mexico is not much more European than Panama, the only thing is that there was no slavery or subsequent miscegenation of Spanish masters with slaves or of cimarron blacks with native women. But from there even the profile of the conquerors was similar: Andalusians, Extremadurans, Castilleans, Canarians and some crypto-Jews and Moors.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 01:06 AM
I bet 100 dollars that if I were castizo I would still call myself a zambo for being Panamanian just as I called Juan Lacas black for being Cuban even though, unlike him, he had no trace of black blood (Gaysien has 3% and Juan Lacas 0%)

3% doesn't show on my phenotype so I don't know why you bring that up.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 01:08 AM
And Mexico is not much more European than Panama, the only thing is that there was no slavery or subsequent miscegenation of Spanish masters with slaves or of maroon blacks with native women. But from there even the profile of the conquerors was similar: Andalusians, Extremeños, Castellanos, Canarians and some crypto-Jews and Moors.

There was a little bit in Oaxaca and Veracruz, but point taken. Another point to add is that, principally due to the Canal and the associated commerce, Panama per capita has had more post-independence European (and Asian) immigration than Mexico.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 01:09 AM
There was a little bit in Oaxaca and Veracruz, but point taken. Another point to add is that, principally due to the Canal and the associated commerce, Panama per capita has had more post-independence European (and Asian) immigration than Mexico.

You are out your mind If you think Panama Is whiter than Mexico. All Central Americans I've seen look like fairly 33/35/33 triracials physically some even full black.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 01:11 AM
You are out your mind If you think Panama Is whiter than Mexico. All Central Americans I've seen look like fairly 33/35/33 triracials physically some even full black.

No of course it isn't. But its White population, in relative terms, is more diverse and of recent origin than in Mexico.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 01:13 AM
No of course it isn't. But its White population, in relative terms, is more diverse and of recent origin than in Mexico.

So absurd, you seriously can't compare a gigantic country like Mexico with Panama Mexico alone has more Middle easterns than whole Central America In quantity numbers.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2024, 01:16 AM
So absurd, you seriously can't compare a gigantic country like Mexico with Panama Mexico alone has more Middle easterns than whole Central America In quantity numbers.

That is why I said per capita. For such a small country, Panama is indeed an incredible melting pot, much more so than e.g. El Salvador or Honduras.

Incal
05-30-2024, 02:13 AM
South, central and north Mexico according to Lie-redo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOxPDa2XgAAUW7i?format=jpg&name=medium

GeneralTorrijos
05-30-2024, 02:36 AM
The mestizo jester can only get over by himself

GeneralTorrijos
05-30-2024, 02:38 AM
The mestizo jester use an obvious cherry picking for trolling the Spaniards as the good shitcano troll the he is

Anglo-Celtic
05-30-2024, 02:50 AM
I know one family where the dad is Mexican (I'm assuming Mestizo - looks like one, at least) and the mom is some sort of white American mix, and between the 5 kids you have everything ranging from borderline fruit picker to average castizo to white brunette.

That's how my relatives are. Some could pass for Spanish (me), some could pass for Swedish, some could pass for Irish, and some could pass for Martian.

alnortedelsur
05-30-2024, 05:57 AM
Aren't you ironically and unintentionally endorsing Laredo's claim? That despite their Amerindian admixture, many Mexicans can be quite light, more so than quite a few Spaniards themselves? (I think he is exaggerating significantly).

Of course that I don't endorse Laredo's bullshit claim of white Mexicans being lighter on average than Spaniards.

But the same way that I defend that white Mexicans (who in most cases their Euro ancestry is fully or mostly Spanish) aren't lighter on average than Spaniards, I also defend that most Euro-leaning mestizos (more so in the case of castizos) are within same range of pigmentation (from swarthy to light) as full Europeans, and that includes that they are not more often swarthier than full Europeans, but are in about the same ratio in being lighter or swarthier as full Europeans.

Now, I don't want Laredo to have an orgasm reading this, since he doesn't even reach the harnizo range.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 06:01 AM
Of course that I don't endorse Laredo's bullshit claim of white Mexicans being lighter on average than Spaniards.

But the same way that I defend that white Mexicans (who in most cases their Euro ancestry is fully or mostly Spanish) aren't lighter on average than Spaniards, I also defend that most Euro-leaning mestizos (more so in the case of castizos) are within same range of pigmentation (from swarthy to light) as full Europeans, and that includes that they are not more often swarthier than full Europeans, but are in about the same ratio in being lighter or swarthier as full Europeans.

Now, I don't want Laredo to have an orgasm reading this, since he doesn't even reach the harnizo range.

Don't need to write a bible paragraph I already said what's white within our community Queue (Guatemala) also said those girls will be seen as Mexican

And yes I'm harnizo, a balanced isn't 17-19 points more European You are mistaken if you think I'm 50/50

alnortedelsur
05-30-2024, 06:08 AM
Don't need to write a bible paragraph I already said what's white within our community Queue (Guatemala) also said those girls will be seen as Mexican

And yes I'm harnizo, a balanced isn't 17-19 points more European You are mistaken if you think I'm 50/50

17-19% more European than what? Are you saying that you are 67-69% European?

You don't reach the 60% European mark (which is the mark where the harnizo category begins), if I remember well.

Sovanz
05-30-2024, 06:10 AM
17-19% more European than what? Are you saying that you are 67-69% European?

You don't reach the 60% European mark (which is the mark where the harnizo category begins), if I remember well.

Are you stupid or what? There's no such thing as perfect harnizos , castizos because I'm decends from other mixed people.

My European ancestry % surpass my native blood by 17-19 points I don't even surpass the 40% native now how can I be balanced mestizo when I don't even reach 40% or pass?