Classify Milos Karadaglic

[Hess]

Montenegrin Musician
http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/cmsobjects/4e/4e1254201df30f8ddbd924476a68acf5.jpg.w=262
http://images1.clubzone.com/events/images/345220/345220-1.jpg
http://img3.photographersdirect.com/img/262/wm/pd2760082.jpg
http://www-tc.pbs.org/arts/media/nuarte/assets/01_milos_interview.jpg
http://cdn1.siol.net/sn/img/11/196/634463306912478855_milos_karadaglic.jpg
http://www.classicbrits.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Milos-Karadaglic-466x700.jpg
http://jeanpierrejans.nl/nieuws/img/JPJ%20Milos%20Karadaglic3.jpg

[Capricornus]

pure pontid (north-iranid)

[Hess]

anyone else?

[rashka]

pure pontid (north-iranid)

What is the difference between a Pontid and a Pure Pontid? :confused:

What does North-Iranid have to do with "pure" Pontid? He has no resemblance to any Iranid.

Is this guy a Croat, Serb or a Montenegrin?

[Capricornus]

What is the difference between a Pontid and a Pure Pontid? :confused:

What does North-Iranid have to do with "pure" Pontid? He has no resemblance to any Iranid.

Is this guy a Croat, Serb or a Montenegrin?
I wanted to say that he Pontid without admixture ;)

[rashka]

He likes to play Guitar with Spanish sounds. You can see his profile better in videos I think.

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[Dr. van Winkle]

Atlanto-Pontid.

[GeistFaust]

Pontid/Ponto-Mediterranid predominantly.

[Kanuni]

Looks Greek to me.

As for classification Pontid-EastMed with Alpinoid influences.

[King Claus]

looks like pontid with minor alpine and maybe dinarid influences.

[Onur]

Is this guy a Croat, Serb or a Montenegrin?
His surname means "Montenegrin" in Turkish. So he should be a Montenegrin.

[Guapo]

Looks Iberian

[Smaug]

Pontid + East-Med

[aherne]

Surname is Turkish. Also looks EXTREMELY Anatolian (stereotypical Turk and Greek)...

[aherne]

His surname means "Montenegrin" in Turkish. So he should be a Montenegrin.

True. Completely off-topic: at which point in Turkish language history did the g become ğ (in other words, was no longer pronounced)? This seems to be a general phenomena that also affects the Turkish dialect spoken by Azeri people...

[Onur]

at which point in Turkish language history did the g become ğ (in other words, was no longer pronounced)? This seems to be a general phenomena that also affects the Turkish dialect spoken by Azeri people...
This is a feature of Oghuz dialects but Kypchak never uses it as "ğ" but always as "g". I have met with a Tatar guy 2 weeks ago and he even had major difficulty to pronounce our "ğ" like English people has for the French "u".

This one and few other speech styles indicates differences between Oghuz (like Turkish) and Kypchak (like Tatar) tongues. I have no idea how come or when this phenomenon created in our tongues.

[mysticism]

His surname means "Montenegrin" in Turkish. So he should be a Montenegrin.

No such thing as a Montenegrin ethnos. He is Serb from Podgorica.

[Ushtari]

^^ then why do people in Montenegro declare themselves as Montenegrins?

[mysticism]

^^ then why do people in Montenegro declare themselves as Montenegrins?

Political manipulation and hyper-regionalism.

Claiming Montenegrin to many is like claiming to be elite Serb basically.

[Kalitas]

Looks Super-Pontid to me

[Gospodine]

This guy could easily be Iranian.

[ChocolateFace]

pontid/alpine

slavisized Albanian

[Sorab]

pontid/alpine

slavisized Albanian
More like "slavicized Greek" for that matter and it seems to be a more logical assumption .Judging by his surname is almost identical to Greek one Karadaglis .
http://www.ancientfaces.com/surname/karadaglis-family-history/828749

[Onur]

More like "slavicized Greek" for that matter and it seems to be a more logical assumption .Judging by his surname is almost identical to Greek one Karadaglis .
http://www.ancientfaces.com/surname/karadaglis-family-history/828749
Your link is so stupid that everything written in there is false;


Karadaglis family history has a complex evolution of which the particulars can be pieced together by Karadaglis family researchers. The last name Karadaglis is an old lineage that has migrated all across the world over time, and as the name Karadaglis has spread, it has evolved making it's etymology difficult to uncover.
There is nothing difficult finding the correct etymology of that name. It`s Turkish and it simply means "Montenegrin" (with the Greekish suffix addition of -lis or Serbian -lic). 5 year old Turkish children could answer that question.


The nationality of Karadaglis can be complicated to determine in cases which country boundaries change over time, making the nation of origin a mystery. The original ethnicity of Karadaglis may be in dispute based on whether the name originated naturally and independently in multiple locales
No it`s not that difficult to determine nationality either. The ones with -lis suffix should be Greek, the one with -lic should be from some slavic speaking country.

One of my relative`s husband has a surname of "Karadağ-lı". His family came to Turkey from Montenegro and he is a Bosnian in origin.


I believe yankeesfan0130 is right. Milos Karadaglic is probably a slavicized Albanian and your Greek Karadaglis is most likely an hellenized Albo from Montenegro.

[Gospodine]

I believe yankeesfan0130 is right. Milos Karadaglic is probably a slavicized Albanian and your Greek Karadaglis is most likely an hellenized Albo from Montenegro.

Maybe. But you shouldn't put too much stock in Balkan surnames as a reliable indicator of ancestry.

A lot (if not the majority) of Balkan surnames are anecdotal or occupational, rather than actually patronymic (they just follow patronymic naming conventions).

[Twistedmind]

I believe yankeesfan0130 is right. Milos Karadaglic is probably a slavicized Albanian and your Greek Karadaglis is most likely an hellenized Albo from Montenegro.
:picard1:
Do you got paid for uttering nonsenses. There are Englishmen with Greek root of surname, it does not makes them Greeks.

This man has Serbian name, and have Serbian surnmae derived from Turkish root. He could just be Serb/Montenegrin all of rest is just pointless speculating.

[Methusalem]

Pontid with minor alpinoid.

[Maxim]

pontid
+ dinar

[dralos]

anatolid with dinarid/pontid influences

[Amun]

ALpine/pontid/EastMed

[safinator]

Anadolid

[Twistedmind]

Anadolid

Could pass as your cousin? :laugh:

[Ianus]

Pontid

[Kalimtari]

cm-med, good looking guy

[armenianbodyhair]

Really amazing guitarist.

[PlanA]

How common is his look amongst Western Balkanites?

[Kalimtari]

How common is his look amongst Western Balkanites?

it's fairly present