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CelticViking
06-14-2012, 05:10 AM
If you are unsure post in Taxonomy or ask GeistFaust to classify them.He is very helpful. For more examples look in the tags too.
This thread is only for Hallstatt Nordid.

Max von Sydow

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/29791.gif

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120329204131/jamesbond/images/0/09/Max-Von-Sydow.jpg

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/1973_The_Exorcist/max_von_sydow_the_exorcist_001.jpg

Arne
06-14-2012, 05:11 AM
http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/image/view/10930176,7436778,highRes,maxh,480,maxw,480,110917_ schloesser_pritzkuleit_420_240_170.jpg.jpg

CelticViking
06-14-2012, 05:23 AM
Heidi Range
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50829

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gp/Heidi+Range+Dave+Berry+engaged+5nTLXYjZNgul.jpg

CelticViking
06-14-2012, 05:28 AM
Marie Plosjo
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51536

http://photos-3.posh24.com/p/1183636/z/marie_plosjo/marie_plosjo_glmaourmodell_rei.jpg

Neanderthal
06-14-2012, 05:59 AM
These two womans aren't fully Nordid me thinks.
http://www.burzum.org/img/gallery03/big/photo11.jpg
Varg Vikernes, tho, now that he has aged he looks more Cromagno-id inspired, but he looked pretty Nordid when young.

CelticViking
06-14-2012, 07:14 AM
André Pops
http://vancouver2010tv.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/svt-andre-pops.jpg

Artek
06-14-2012, 11:17 AM
Max von Sydow is actually more on the Eastnordid spectrum, IMO.

pred."Hallstatt Nordids" aka Classic Nordids

Apina
06-14-2012, 02:52 PM
Ulrika Jonsson
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Ulrika-Jonsson-5.jpg

Arne
06-14-2012, 03:07 PM
http://www.haie.de/thumbnail.php?size=590&image=image/gallery/4036.jpg&sig=94389c3692895dd32ba5dd961b16bc1d

aherne
06-14-2012, 07:05 PM
Sharon Stone
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2tggLZ2rGkg/TDR0Irmi_JI/AAAAAAAAJS8/fjriDu3Ad6Y/s1600/sharon.stone.jpg
Aryan strongly dominant with pre-Germanic influences

Arne
06-14-2012, 07:06 PM
Sharon Stone
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2tggLZ2rGkg/TDR0Irmi_JI/AAAAAAAAJS8/fjriDu3Ad6Y/s1600/sharon.stone.jpg
Aryan strongly dominant with pre-Germanic influences

She isn´t hallstatt nordid

Útrám
06-14-2012, 11:53 PM
Hallstatt Nordics constitute a minority element in Iceland. however, they do occur in relatively pure form here and there.

http://i.imgur.com/mzoMb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TdLA3.jpg

More generalized
http://i.imgur.com/Hhzmp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Y35NL.jpg

Arne
06-14-2012, 11:56 PM
Hallstatt Nordics constitute a minority element in Iceland. however, they do occur in relatively pure form here and there.

He possibly carries some Trönder aswell..
but looks quite like a textbook Example
http://myndasafn.ksi.is/fotoweb/cmdrequest/rest/Preview.fwx?rt=1&f=592B009ACA164E68D2D4D58DA8A38554103D338CA03EF3A8 476FEF2387F58EE286E56E2EA299692340A645AFB1423BBC68 F731AB39A2E0CA2A1BFD80E7BAC0B23C98914487DF126BFB5D 6F402E64A60928F2770D62CEBB9190DD95511B90063137A422 B4600FD68EA7467647C2DCBD88B15EB1248990E9ECC3DC6C3C 0B79F45DC75C04447DFCFE0A3956F14C6A91A0C7C8C296CDCE 7BE53576D6202B3BDD9A456A4D0765D2912CA1&sz=500

second guy is more Nordocromagnid.
Third guy has a more eastern nordid look..

Útrám
06-14-2012, 11:58 PM
He possibly carries some Trönder aswell..
http://myndasafn.ksi.is/fotoweb/cmdrequest/rest/Preview.fwx?rt=1&f=592B009ACA164E68D2D4D58DA8A38554103D338CA03EF3A8 476FEF2387F58EE286E56E2EA299692340A645AFB1423BBC68 F731AB39A2E0CA2A1BFD80E7BAC0B23C98914487DF126BFB5D 6F402E64A60928F2770D62CEBB9190DD95511B90063137A422 B4600FD68EA7467647C2DCBD88B15EB1248990E9ECC3DC6C3C 0B79F45DC75C04447DFCFE0A3956F14C6A91A0C7C8C296CDCE 7BE53576D6202B3BDD9A456A4D0765D2912CA1&sz=500

Perhaps a slightly more robust variant. To me he's like the purest specimen ever.

Hilda
06-14-2012, 11:59 PM
Sharon Stone is really prefered among plastic surgery doctor. grrrr

Arne
06-15-2012, 12:00 AM
Perhaps a slightly more robust variant. To me he's like the purest specimen ever.

he´s way more trönder to be accurate if you wanna hear it.

Útrám
06-15-2012, 12:05 AM
he´s way more trönder to be accurate if you wanna hear it.

Don't rustle my Nordic jimmies.

Útrám
06-15-2012, 12:17 AM
And of course Sweden, the Hallstatt homeland.

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/6f/fullj.22ed830c446e9e165b95a794b9a3d0f6/22ed830c446e9e165b95a794b9a3d0f6-getty-511223102.jpg

http://i.eurosport.se/2012/04/13/830490-14199124-640-360.jpg

http://cdn01.tv4.se/polopoly_fs/1.1096044.1247659045!image/3890052638.gif_gen/derivatives/w450/3890052638.gif

http://svenskfotboll.se/ImageVault/Images/id_76536/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/scope_0/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

http://svenskfotboll.se/ImageVault/Images/id_55894/width_250/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/compressionQuality_0/scope_0/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

http://svenskfotboll.se/ImageVault/Images/id_78374/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/scope_0/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

In some CM/Nordic hybrid types the basic character remains essentially Nordic IMO. I think the individual below is a good example of that.

http://svenskfotboll.se/ImageVault/Images/id_78396/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/scope_0/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

Arne
06-15-2012, 12:29 AM
The German invasive Hallstatt Elements.
Sebastian Vettel
http://cdn.starflash.de/bilder/sebastian-vettel-400x510-22674.jpg
http://fotos.autozeitung.de/462x347/images/bildergalerie/2010/03/Formel-1-Pilot-Sebastian-Vettel-017.jpg
http://img1.motorsport-aktuell.com/Sebastian-Vettel-freut-sich-auf-den-bevorstehenden-Beginn-der-Europasaison-f498x333-F4F4F2-C-4dd7928-341766.jpg
http://img3.motorsport-aktuell.com/Sebastian-Vettel-ist-froh-dar_ber-dass-es-morgen-endlich-wieder-losgeht-f498x333-F4F4F2-C-6bce6416-466435.jpg

Preserve the White Pinky Race.
Jenson Button he could pass as a German with his Warmer Facal Features
http://bc03.rp-online.de/polopoly_fs/mkennt-seite-prominenten-sportlers-2007-model-1.1989968.1316045503!/httpImage/3631608061.jpg_gen/derivatives/rpo_zoom1024/3631608061.jpg
http://topnews.in/sports/files/Jenson_Button.jpg
http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/79440-1/27+Jenson+Button+pic.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01505/jenson-button_1505858c.jpg

Hans Joachim Stuck
http://richardsf1.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/StuckThoughtful.jpg

Rouxinol
06-15-2012, 10:08 PM
^Some of those posted above have strong CM, would fit as Tronder more adequately.

Megan McCormick

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535610_345552518825476_315052300_n.jpg http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/40102_121476524566411_7267645_n.jpg http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/40607_121479541232776_8103533_n.jpg

Davy Jones's Locker
07-21-2012, 08:52 PM
Bo Carpelan

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GkANj1dsJwU/TW9UaWsqW-I/AAAAAAAAAXY/tIxfP21yLHM/s1600/carepelan_w170.jpg


He is just Skandonordid, quite typical and progressive. Though physical appearance and expression can be misleading he looks like being very schizothymic too.



Laurence Fox

http://static.whatsontv.co.uk/images/gallery/121_billy_06.jpg


Skandonordid, if, only very minor Cromagnid/Dalofaelid influences I guess, but still in the range of a general textbook example.

Ugo Tognazzi
07-30-2012, 08:02 PM
Nick Thoman US Silver Medalist
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7s5e2EMlE1qkuehho1_500.jpg

Ugo Tognazzi
08-06-2012, 06:11 PM
shorter than the standard at 161 cm, but overall rather Nordid
Flavius Koczi. Romania. Vault Jump
http://admin.ziarulring.com/images/upload/sport/jo-flavius-koczi-in-finale-la-sol-si-sarituri-434x326.jpg http://www.obiectivdesuceava.ro/v2/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/flavius.jpg[/IMG]

Libertas
08-06-2012, 06:40 PM
http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/image/view/10930176,7436778,highRes,maxh,480,maxw,480,110917_ schloesser_pritzkuleit_420_240_170.jpg.jpg

Er no..a bit Jewish really.:picard1:

Ellin Arhon
08-07-2012, 05:02 PM
Can you please tell me your opinion if the following people are into this category. It's a question, I am not claiming that they are Hallstatts

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Bj%C3%B6rn_Borg2.jpg

http://www.fivemagazine.es/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/scu7_modif.jpg

http://chexydecimal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/prince-philip-young1.jpg

Somebody said about jenson button that looks German I wonder how it came to him. In fact I can hardly think of a person that looks more English than Button. Possibly Jonny Wilkinson?

http://www.posters.ws/images/842294/jonny_wilkinson.jpg

Sandman
08-07-2012, 10:42 PM
My brother is Hallstatt with CM influence.

Mordid
08-08-2012, 06:29 PM
My brother is Hallstatt with CM influence.
He look essential East Nordid in that picture.

Ozzy
08-13-2012, 09:51 PM
If one is classified simply as "Nordid" - Is that term implying Hallstatt (the default), rather than Keltic or East or any other subtype?

Sandman
08-15-2012, 09:29 PM
Keltic Nordic or East Nordid are separate subtypes.

Ozzy
08-16-2012, 03:11 AM
Keltic Nordic or East Nordid are separate subtypes.

If you're addressing me, I did seperate the two terms and acknowledge that there are clear differences between the two. I was just wondering if there's a difference between a "Nordid" and a "Hallstatt Nordid", if the Hallstatt is essentially an unaltered Nordid.

British-Wolf
08-26-2012, 02:52 PM
If you're addressing me, I did seperate the two terms and acknowledge that there are clear differences between the two. I was just wondering if there's a difference between a "Nordid" and a "Hallstatt Nordid", if the Hallstatt is essentially an unaltered Nordid.

I would believe that when people are saying just "nordid" most of the time they mean hallstatt nordid, (the original unaltered nordid) but sometimes I just use the term "nordid" when I'm not completely sure what the nordic component is. Hope that helps

Rouxinol
11-06-2012, 01:31 PM
Pred. Halstatt Nordid, Max PLAXTON (Canada).

http://www.canada.com/6825071.bin http://www.canadian-cycling.com/cca/nat_team/bioheaders/plaxton_header.jpg

British-Wolf
11-19-2012, 04:46 PM
Scottish Athlete Imogen Bankier
https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2266832535/image.jpg

Alenka
11-19-2012, 04:57 PM
http://oi49.tinypic.com/2ev9k68.jpg

sevruk
11-24-2012, 07:42 PM
Per Mertesacker looks textbook Hallstatt Nordid (except for his eyes)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Per_Mertesacker_Arsenal_vs_Sunderland%2C_18_August _2012%2C_Pre_match_7_%28cropped%29.jpg/400px-Per_Mertesacker_Arsenal_vs_Sunderland%2C_18_August _2012%2C_Pre_match_7_%28cropped%29.jpg
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/mertesacker+arsenal+swansea.jpeg
http://football-prognoz.com/i/news/2564.300.jpg
http://www.sport-express.ua/upload/news/2011/8/88067-germanija-verder-prodast-mertesakera.jpg
http://fc-arsenal.by/uploads/posts/2012-10/1349432917_gun__1349183199_mertesacker_training.jp g

sevruk
11-24-2012, 07:45 PM
Reto Ziegler
http://rsport.ru/images/61646/11/616461115.jpg
http://pics.sport.rbc.ru/sport_pics/resized/300x240/uniora/60/1347509332_0960.400x320.jpeg
http://vmdaily.ru/photo/large/file66igjqly51z162azddv5.jpg
http://i.eurosport.ru/2011/05/26/725709-9403177-640-360.jpg

sevruk
11-28-2012, 09:07 AM
Dominik Landertinger
http://allbiathlon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD2.jpg
http://www.sports.ru/images/object_9.1281603188.40583.jpg?1281604333.89353
http://www.smpr.at/media/newspictures/newsimgbig_494.jpg

safinator
12-02-2012, 08:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kARLv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iegvP.jpg

Leon_C
01-02-2013, 08:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Q5wLZ.jpg

I think shaggy is predominantly Nordid

aherne
01-03-2013, 05:40 AM
http://i.imgur.com/kARLv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iegvP.jpg

Bad example... Aryan not predominant in this woman, therefore not a "Hallstatt Nordid" (= Germanic Aryan).

This is a pure Germanic Aryan:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0GcmYMyXado/TB5KK0BKIII/AAAAAAAAAn0/lodQ2mTzwQM/s1600/LaurenceFox1.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02343/tw1_2343297b.jpg
Generally, Aryan is extremely predominant in these individuals and aboriginal element from Jutland (Faelid/Borreby) is only present as a slight influence, enough to make them unmistakably Germanic though.

Lemon Kush
01-04-2013, 02:23 PM
Christian Olsson
http://www.apb.se/preview/ChristianOlsson_CO03_0891.jpg

http://ussu.daa.jp/bbb/ChristianOlsson03.jpg

http://www.dn.se/images/2011/05/05/Christian-Olsson-660.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/3009722991_2cf419dabd.jpg

Septentrion
01-13-2013, 06:54 PM
She isn´t hallstatt nordid
Sharon Stone is Hallstatt Nordic, but not typical rather a generalized version.

Graham
01-13-2013, 07:01 PM
http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/article1487472.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Lynsey+Sharphttp://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lynsey+Sharp+21st+European+Athletics+Championships +pe1ghgTNGBLl.jpghttp://www.heraldscotland.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/400xY/2012/7/18258411.JPGhttp://www.teamgb.com/sites/default/files/styles/300_300/public/Lynsey%20Sharp.jpghttp://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pamela+Jelimo+Olympics+Day+12+Athletics+S8LVGErVms Vl.jpg

Leon_C
02-05-2013, 08:27 PM
http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/article1487472.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Lynsey+Sharphttp://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lynsey+Sharp+21st+European+Athletics+Championships +pe1ghgTNGBLl.jpghttp://www.heraldscotland.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/400xY/2012/7/18258411.JPGhttp://www.teamgb.com/sites/default/files/styles/300_300/public/Lynsey%20Sharp.jpghttp://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pamela+Jelimo+Olympics+Day+12+Athletics+S8LVGErVms Vl.jpg

She looks like an intermediate between Keltic and Hallstatt

sevruk
02-09-2013, 06:50 PM
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39757991/x_f6223eaa.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39757991/x_b61b58c7.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39757991/x_6b21df60.jpg

Casperus
02-10-2013, 04:12 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/35bgp5f.jpg

My nordid phenotype morph from the sims 3.

sevruk
02-21-2013, 05:36 PM
Oscar Wendt
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/1/2011/324x324/99714.jpg
http://i.football.ua/i/news/563x347/122723.jpg
http://i.football.ua/i/people/8931.jpg
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2010/324x324/99714.jpg

sevruk
03-28-2013, 03:32 PM
Marek Kvapil
http://www.tampabaylightning.ru/images/players/kvapilmarek.jpg
http://bezformata.ru/content/Images/000/003/159/image3159669.jpg
http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy221/max_li/20110919_DynSpa/DynSpa-5785.jpg

Casperus
03-28-2013, 05:31 PM
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/59730_343814599057326_1730285321_n.jpg
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/28994_343818135723639_750776199_n.jpg

British-Wolf
04-02-2013, 05:38 PM
Peter Lřvenkrands. Pred. Nordid
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/52318000/jpg/_52318592_011819383-1.jpg

Lemon Kush
04-02-2013, 06:05 PM
Pred. Halstatt Nordid, Max PLAXTON (Canada).

http://www.canada.com/6825071.bin http://www.canadian-cycling.com/cca/nat_team/bioheaders/plaxton_header.jpg

This guy's vault and forehead seem pretty high. He's Tronder rather than Hallstatt Nordid.

Lemon Kush
04-02-2013, 06:35 PM
Christian Luscher:

http://www.20min.ch/tooldata/rating/1615/big-16092.jpg

Géza
04-15-2013, 06:26 PM
Phoenix Ray - Carla is an erotic model from Germany born 1975. She looks pretty good female Hallstatt Nordid sample. This kind of blond hair may be dyed. But on some picture is visible a brownish hair root. The androgenic hair looks light brown too. Note: the genital area is strongly depigmented, reddish-rosy contrast to Meds, Asians and Africans have more pigmented genitals.

http://gals.kindgirls.com/mar/carla3/carla3_4.jpg

+18 !

http://www.kindgirls.com/girls/phoenix-ray/475

There is a collection of woman per countries what means good sources of searching to good female samples. There are Russians, Ukrainians, etc. But note: the country origin somtimes, many times is not equal with the real ethnicitiy!

Saruman
04-17-2013, 12:54 PM
Paul Hackett, US Lt. Colonel and lawyer from Ohio.

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060214/060214_hackett_vsml_12p.grid-4x2.jpg

http://www.toledoblade.com/image/2006/01/21/800x_b1_cCM_z/Hackett-defends-evangelist-terror-leader-comparison.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/spandau/DSC02290.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/spandau/DSC02282.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/spandau/DSC02289.jpg

Lemon Kush
04-21-2013, 06:35 AM
Macaulay Culkin:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B1LlYh6iKqs/TKp8kyUFk6I/AAAAAAAAC64/Ho3VIooSapM/s1600/macaulay-culkin.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Macaulay_Culkin_singing_(2010).jpg

http://www.berlinale.de/media/60_jubilaeum_1/starportraits/2003_2/2003-8111CulkinMacaulay_IMG_x900.jpg

Terror Terror
05-21-2013, 04:24 PM
Spanish Guti.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01685/guti_1685213c.jpg

Leon_C
05-21-2013, 04:54 PM
Spanish Guti.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01685/guti_1685213c.jpg

I think he has CM influence

Géza
05-21-2013, 07:16 PM
German samples from the 20th. From the book of Wolfgang Willrich: Das Deutsche Antlitz — The German Face

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33875&d=1369163353

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33876&d=1369163355

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33881&d=1369163364

aherne
05-22-2013, 08:06 AM
German samples from the 20th. From the book of Wolfgang Willrich: Das Deutsche Antlitz — The German Face

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33875&d=1369163353

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33876&d=1369163355

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33881&d=1369163364

Perfect examples as well. Exquisite ultra-harmonious features, rightfully a race of beauty!

Terror Terror
05-22-2013, 01:41 PM
Dolph Lundgren
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_small/10/100757/2003430-ivan_drago_2.jpg

Brad Pitt
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B34tZwMMh7E/R7psW3slH-I/AAAAAAAAAMA/NzQjE66lauw/s400/Brad+Pitt.jpg

Amber Heard
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3900000/Amber-amber-heard-3923513-1201-1761.jpg[IMG]

Santiago Cańizares
[IMG]http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/santiago_canizares1.jpg

Peikko
05-22-2013, 01:49 PM
Dolph Lundgren
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_small/10/100757/2003430-ivan_drago_2.jpg

Brad Pitt
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B34tZwMMh7E/R7psW3slH-I/AAAAAAAAAMA/NzQjE66lauw/s400/Brad+Pitt.jpg

Amber Heard
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3900000/Amber-amber-heard-3923513-1201-1761.jpg[IMG]

Santiago Cańizares
[IMG]http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/santiago_canizares1.jpg

None of those three are Halstatt Nordids. Quit trolling.

Peikko
05-22-2013, 01:50 PM
Spanish Guti.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01685/guti_1685213c.jpg
Nope. He barely has any Nordid influences.

Terror Terror
05-22-2013, 01:52 PM
None of those three are Halstatt Nordids. Quit trolling.
How you dare? YOU quit trolling me wherever thread I go!! :mad: If we disagree so be it but leave me alone!

Peikko
05-22-2013, 01:53 PM
How you dare? YOU quit trolling me wherever thread I go!! :mad: If we disagree so be it but leave me alone!

Getting pissed? :lol00002:

Your English really sucks for a Canadian...

Terror Terror
05-22-2013, 01:56 PM
Your English really sucks for a Canadian...
And yours is very good for a chink!

Peikko
05-22-2013, 02:01 PM
And yours is very good for a chink!

Chinks have better English than Spaniards on average :thumb001:

Here's some Nordids for you:

Corded:
http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Coon%20Plate%2027.jpg

Danubian:
http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Coon%20Plate%2028.jpg

Roy
05-22-2013, 02:36 PM
Is he Hallstatt Nordid?

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Adrian+Schultheiss+Figure+Skating+Day+7+-bxnJmWN2ULx.jpg

King Claus
05-22-2013, 02:39 PM
Is he Hallstatt Nordid?

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Adrian+Schultheiss+Figure+Skating+Day+7+-bxnJmWN2ULx.jpg

no

Roy
05-22-2013, 02:40 PM
I think he's more Tronder/CM-derived. You're right.

Scholl
05-22-2013, 08:49 PM
Swedish metal guitarist Ola Englund

33921

archangel
05-22-2013, 08:52 PM
nordids are just depigmented meds nothing more with same long faces and slim built etc..

gregorius
05-22-2013, 08:55 PM
nordids are just depigmented meds nothing more with same long faces and slim built etc..

They look like ''real'' turks dont you agree turkic brother :cool: They have this northern Eurasia barbarian Look :cool:

Dombra
05-22-2013, 08:59 PM
nordids are just depigmented meds nothing more with same long faces and slim built etc..

Taller?

archangel
05-22-2013, 09:03 PM
lol no gregor these nordids dont look enough barbarian to look ancient Türks:cool:
Nordids are avarage heighted,not tall with slender built

Mazik
05-22-2013, 09:13 PM
lol no gregor these nordids dont look enough barbarian to look ancient Türks:cool:
Nordids are avarage heighted,not tall with slender built

and what is considered average by you standards?

Leon_C
05-23-2013, 01:01 PM
Yeah I never see pure nordids that are tall, tall guys are usually they are Nordocromagnic ubermensch like me

Not a Cop
05-23-2013, 01:52 PM
Shydow is 195 as far as I remember

Leon_C
05-23-2013, 06:17 PM
Shydow is 195 as far as I remember

Sydow is clearly slightly dinaricised which is why he's so tall

Géza
05-26-2013, 01:37 PM
German samples from the 20th. From the book of Wolfgang Willrich: Das Deutsche Antlitz — The German Face

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33875&d=1369163353

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33876&d=1369163355

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33881&d=1369163364

Perfect examples as well. Exquisite ultra-harmonious features, rightfully a race of beauty!

Indeed! This faces like a luxury car or a cathedral. The Masterpieces of the Nature.

Infinte
05-26-2013, 01:46 PM
nordids are just depigmented meds nothing more with same long faces and slim built etc..

Yeah, sure..I heard that the Swedish folks originate from Afghanistan but lost their tanned skin due to the weather..:picard2:

archangel
05-27-2013, 11:51 PM
many north europeans and iranids etc have the similar facial feautures

sevruk
06-10-2013, 08:35 PM
Nowegians
http://s09.radikal.ru/i182/1009/27/8b63c7afddfc.jpg
http://s54.radikal.ru/i146/1009/1d/738cef9981bb.jpg

Not a Cop
06-10-2013, 09:42 PM
Second one got something odd about the eyes

aherne
06-11-2013, 05:52 AM
Price Philip, Duke of Edinborough is a supremely pure representative of Germanic race (compared to him even my father looks like a mischlinge):
http://images.npg.org.uk/264_325/6/1/mw170161.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ai7fGpOu1qgz8jvo1_400.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/16/article-2130665-00BC61EC00000190-487_224x423.jpg
Corded Aryan altered secondarily by Faelid.

sevruk
06-12-2013, 01:33 PM
Second one got something odd about the eyes

probably drunk

Géza
06-12-2013, 07:09 PM
Price Philip, Duke of Edinborough is a supremely pure representative of Germanic race (compared to him even my father looks like a mischlinge):
http://images.npg.org.uk/264_325/6/1/mw170161.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ai7fGpOu1qgz8jvo1_400.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/16/article-2130665-00BC61EC00000190-487_224x423.jpg
Corded Aryan altered secondarily by Faelid.

Prince Philip has partly the typical Middle-Eastern origined eye-zone-pigmentations. Arabs and Jewish ones have typically it. People with weak Middle-Eastern influence (Balkanic people and Hungary with partly Balkanic origin) can have the mixed variants, when just the upper, or the lower eyelid or the inner eyecorner has the pigmentation. We can see Prince Philip has this later case.

http://images.theage.com.au/2009/10/28/818682/420-prince-philip-420x0.jpg

http://www.standard.co.uk/incoming/article8335510.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/prince-philip.jpg


I would say he is CN with Dinarid. I use to see among partly or full Dinarid Hungarians the partly variants of this eye-zone-pigmentation.

In the young pictures I think he looked rather Hungarian, Balkanic or South-German:

http://static.bbc.co.uk/history/img/ic/640/images/resources/people/prince_philip.jpg

There is tha planoccipital Dinarid backhead:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nKHhkUR9ies/USsIIEbtkzI/AAAAAAAAWes/5Sm6MSv5zbI/s1600/march-23-1964-the-beatles-and-brian-epstein-meeting-prince-philip-at-the-carl-alan-awards.jpg

Peikko
06-13-2013, 08:01 PM
Price Philip, Duke of Edinborough is a supremely pure representative of Germanic race (compared to him even my father looks like a mischlinge):
http://images.npg.org.uk/264_325/6/1/mw170161.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ai7fGpOu1qgz8jvo1_400.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/16/article-2130665-00BC61EC00000190-487_224x423.jpg
Corded Aryan altered secondarily by Faelid.

He's not corded, shows clear dinarization. noric

sevruk
06-14-2013, 07:53 AM
He's not corded, shows clear dinarization. noric

Hallstatt Nordid ≠ Corded

Leon_C
06-14-2013, 08:01 AM
Dinaric is partially derived from Corded anyway, but I agree prince Philip is pretty strongly dinaricised not long headed like Nordids he is mesocephalic and has a mega dinarid nose and a slightly stronger slope in the forehead than the average hallstatt.

aherne
06-14-2013, 10:51 AM
Dinaric is partially derived from Corded anyway, but I agree prince Philip is pretty strongly dinaricised not long headed like Nordids he is mesocephalic and has a mega dinarid nose and a slightly stronger slope in the forehead than the average hallstatt.

You guys are splitting hairs. In case Halstatt Nordid refers to Germanic variety of Aryan race, it is simply not possible to find a purer Germanic individual than this guy. He is the embodiment of NationalSocialist "Aryan race" cartoons...

Maternia
06-14-2013, 11:07 AM
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6014/nordic_ideal.jpg

Loki
06-14-2013, 11:10 AM
http://s54.radikal.ru/i146/1009/1d/738cef9981bb.jpg

Typical Nordid skull. See the projecting back of the head. The opposite of Dinarid. Chin is a bit too retreating though.

Maternia
06-14-2013, 11:13 AM
http://oi45.tinypic.com/2ynrsr4.jpg

Maternia
06-14-2013, 11:21 AM
http://i.imgur.com/T6L6mr5.jpg

Lemon Kush
06-14-2013, 11:29 AM
Otto Günsche, top ranking SS soldier of Hitler 6'6 (199 cm) tall

http://static.tumblr.com/ilwdwil/mQVm5s012/sans_titre.jpg

http://imagehost.epier.com/101020/Gunsche%20Otto%20Sturmbannfuhrer....jpg

http://imagehost.epier.com/101020/Junge%20Hans%20Untersturmfuhrer...(3).jpg

Leon_C
06-14-2013, 02:19 PM
http://i.imgur.com/T6L6mr5.jpg

He is English right? He looks a bit faelid aswell as Nordid, very Germanic looking.

Peikko
06-14-2013, 02:20 PM
Hallstatt Nordid ≠ Corded

No shit Sherlock!

Peikko
06-14-2013, 02:28 PM
You guys are splitting hairs. In case Halstatt Nordid refers to Germanic variety of Aryan race, it is simply not possible to find a purer Germanic individual than this guy. He is the embodiment of NationalSocialist "Aryan race" cartoons...
Dude, seriously. He's not even dolicephalic as you can clearly see from this picture from the side:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nKHhkUR9ies/USsIIEbtkzI/AAAAAAAAWes/5Sm6MSv5zbI/s1600/march-23-1964-the-beatles-and-brian-epstein-meeting-prince-philip-at-the-carl-alan-awards.jpg
He's not Nordid, but Noric.

Noric:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe351.jpg
Another Noric:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe353.jpg

Leon_C
06-14-2013, 10:03 PM
Dude, seriously. He's not even dolicephalic as you can clearly see from this picture from the side:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nKHhkUR9ies/USsIIEbtkzI/AAAAAAAAWes/5Sm6MSv5zbI/s1600/march-23-1964-the-beatles-and-brian-epstein-meeting-prince-philip-at-the-carl-alan-awards.jpg
He's not Nordid, but Noric.

Noric:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe351.jpg
Another Noric:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe353.jpg

He doesn't really look like either of those examples, prince philip is also narrow headed unlike Norics who have quite wide heads

Géza
06-17-2013, 05:47 PM
Typical Nordid skull. See the projecting back of the head. The opposite of Dinarid. Chin is a bit too retreating though.

The retreating chin (but not undeveloped) and deep mouth is a very progressive traits. These traits what are one of the most typical European traits as other human types rather have more prominent lower face. I think rather the full thick lips is interresting: this is southern, moreover Levantine trait. And that prominent ears too: Armenids have it typically. The eyeshape is CM, no doubt.


You guys are splitting hairs. In case Halstatt Nordid refers to Germanic variety of Aryan race, it is simply not possible to find a purer Germanic individual than this guy. He is the embodiment of NationalSocialist "Aryan race" cartoons...

The high aristocracy use to be more mixed than the average people. By the way Philip's ancestors were mostly Germans. Hence this Dinarid-CM traits are not so surprising.

Swearengen
06-18-2013, 09:15 PM
Typical Nordid skull. See the projecting back of the head. The opposite of Dinarid. Chin is a bit too retreating though.

weak jaw/retreating chin seems to be especially common in nordids though. I was actually thinking about that on the bus today.

Swearengen
06-18-2013, 09:20 PM
The retreating chin (but not undeveloped) and deep mouth is a very progressive traits. These traits what are one of the most typical European traits as other human types rather have more prominent lower face. I think rather the full thick lips is interresting: this is southern, moreover Levantine trait. And that prominent ears too: Armenids have it typically. The eyeshape is CM, no doubt.



The high aristocracy use to be more mixed than the average people. By the way Philip's ancestors were mostly Germans. Hence this Dinarid-CM traits are not so surprising.

Deep mouth? You mean that the back of the throat is far back relative to the front or back of the jaw?

Leon_C
06-18-2013, 09:34 PM
weak jaw/retreating chin seems to be especially common in nordids though. I was actually thinking about that on the bus today.

Yes, this also contrasts to the Dinarid type in that Dinarids have chins that project far forward in the profile, almost as far forward as the tip of the nose, whereas nordids (and mixed nordid types too) tend to have a great distance between the bottom of their chin and their lower lips and the chin is often retreating, example: Jack Green who is nordocromagid has the type of chin I see on British Nordid types frequently.
http://i.imgur.com/co4gE3m.jpg
this may however be a cromagnid feature as most nordids have cromagnid admixture.

Géza
06-20-2013, 05:57 PM
Deep mouth? You mean that the back of the throat is far back relative to the front or back of the jaw?

I mean when the prosthion and the infradentale are closer to the nasiospinale. And the retrognathic face means the whole prosthion, ifradentale, nasiospinale and gnathion are closer to the Cranium, hence the face are "vertical flat", but potruded in some places by the nose and chin.


Check this guy's profile and this lady's. There is not the "skin colour" the main difference, isn't it?

http://i.models.com/fashionweek/shows/FW096119IlanaSunderland/IMG_7768.sized.jpg

http://www.estelleonline.co.uk/extras/estelle_wallpaper/estelle_wallpaper2_1024x768.jpg

safinator
06-20-2013, 09:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/T6L6mr5.jpg

He's an Anglo Saxon type which is an overgrown Hallstatt but not the same.

lei.talk
06-26-2013, 12:57 PM
if the metrics required

https://i.imgur.com/63Tz5Ee.png (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?5849&p=277638&viewfull=1#post277638)

to determine sub-species/variety/sub-variety/type are unavailable,


http://i40.tinypic.com/2rqmx3c.jpg (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#CEPHALOMETRY)


the quality of the images waxes crucial.
Géza http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?51744&p=1693613&viewfull=1#post1693613) Check this guy's profile and this lady's.
https://i.imgur.com/BTIFV1C.png (http://i.models.com/fashionweek/shows/FW096119IlanaSunderland/IMG_7768.sized.jpg)
http://i42.tinypic.com/2nu81aq.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estelle_(singer))
do any europids
display a silhouette similar to hers (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?19802&p=280292&viewfull=1#post280292)?
*

Géza
06-29-2013, 02:11 PM
do any europids
display a silhouette similar to hers (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?19802&p=280292&viewfull=1#post280292)?[/COLOR][/right]



http://i53.tinypic.com/zwco5e.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism)


It is not funny as I saw under the years some archaic Irish faces as less differencized CMs are looks closer to the Africans, side by side they are very depigmented with light-red fire hair and pinkish white skin. However I would say they are rather a very archaic kind of the UPs, not Negrid descandants. Moreover some Scandinavian non-Mongolid not-Lapplander indiviudal has very-very archaic faces with "ape-like eyes" and very light hair. I guess the European faces 30 kya were not a typical Hallstatt ubermenschen, however they definetley don't look like Africans what the meinstream scientist want forced into our brains.

In anothor hand I have red somewhere in the Herodotos' Persian War that he has spoken about "Ethiopians" in the Caucasus, and lo some Caucasian big fat lip, sloop forehead and black curly hair. I use to think our history may be far more complex than we ever imagine it.

British-Wolf
06-30-2013, 06:20 PM
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9734/subj50060054.jpg

Géza
07-02-2013, 03:56 PM
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9734/subj50060054.jpg

Could some Icelander identify this Manökken? I know that she is an Icelander, but I never see her name.

sevruk
07-11-2013, 02:58 PM
http://s42.radikal.ru/i096/1104/f2/8731ebb9ef4a.jpg

sevruk
07-13-2013, 08:19 PM
http://mybb2.ru//uploads/20080221/120359692250253967.jpg

Pegasus
08-08-2013, 05:42 PM
A typical from former times are the English chemicist Walter Norman Haworth …

http://www.euchems.eu/fileadmin/user_upload/binaries/Haworth_tcm23-29808.gif

… and the German poet Hebbel:

http://www.ebooks-library.com/images/Authors/GCFH.jpg

From today, some athletes. The Swedish soccer player Oscar Wendt:

http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2010/324x324/99714.jpg

… and some female athletes. Jessica Moore from Australia:

http://www.apiainternational.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Jessica-Moore_qualifying.jpg

Asa Svensson (Sweden):

http://www.bryanspage.com/Svensson01.jpg

And last but not least, Jennifer Oeser from Germany:

http://bc02.rp-online.de/polopoly_fs/b-jennifoesb-ueberraschend-silbsiebenkampf-leichtathletik-wm-1.538909.1313525712!/httpImage/3239724052.jpg_gen/derivatives/rpo32_457/3239724052.jpg


archangel:
nordids are just depigmented meds nothing more with same long faces and slim built etc..
That’s medicist wishful thinking, camouflaged as “science”. :picard2: It’s complete reverse in my opinion: Mediterranean races all are mixed races between original Europids (= pure Nordics), Mongolids and Negrids . –

Not a Cop
09-01-2013, 01:27 PM
http://s42.radikal.ru/i096/1104/f2/8731ebb9ef4a.jpg

Interesting (IMO) comparison of East nordid and Hallstatt

http://s017.radikal.ru/i428/1309/28/3457cdf29844.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/8bad9553fe4e45998b49bec8e51a217f)

http://s43.radikal.ru/i100/0907/a7/4f1436bcb317.jpg

aherne
09-02-2013, 05:05 AM
Interesting (IMO) comparison of East nordid and Hallstatt

http://s017.radikal.ru/i428/1309/28/3457cdf29844.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/8bad9553fe4e45998b49bec8e51a217f)

http://s43.radikal.ru/i100/0907/a7/4f1436bcb317.jpg

It illustrates how "East Nordid" (= Slavic Aryan) is MUCH closer to Aryan race than "Hallstatt Nordid" (=Germanic Aryan)

Ozzy
09-03-2013, 04:07 AM
It illustrates how "East Nordid" (= Slavic Aryan) is MUCH closer to Aryan race than "Hallstatt Nordid" (=Germanic Aryan)

Which is which? Neither look like the epitome of a "Slavic Aryan" to me, but I find it curious that the one on the right has very similar proportions/features to me and an identical side profile, nevertheless.

He could just as easily be considered a "Dinaricized Nordoid" type with his forehead in line with his nose, but he's got the high-headedness (although that can also be considered a Dinaric trait) of the "Aryans" I guess (is that even really an appropriate term?) that the other dude lacks in spite of his steeper forehead.

aherne
09-03-2013, 05:09 AM
Which is which? Neither look like the epitome of a "Slavic Aryan" to me, but I find it curious that the one on the right has very similar proportions/features to me and an identical side profile, nevertheless.

He could just as easily be considered a "Dinaricized Nordoid" type with his forehead in line with his nose, but he's got the high-headedness (although that can also be considered a Dinaric trait) of the "Aryans" I guess (is that even really an appropriate term?) that the other dude lacks in spite of his steeper forehead.
First row: ScandoNordid (Germanic Aryan), for profile look on pictures above
Second row: EastNordid (Slavic Aryan)

Ozzy
09-03-2013, 05:54 AM
First row: ScandoNordid (Germanic Aryan), for profile look on pictures above
Second row: EastNordid (Slavic Aryan)

OK.. Bear with me here. By first row, we're talking straight across, correct? So, the fellow that Sevruk posted would be the Scando Nordid? Makes sense to me now. I tend to see things from all possible perspectives and unless someone is very specific things seem ambiguous to me.

Géza
09-03-2013, 04:50 PM
Interesting (IMO) comparison of East nordid and Hallstatt

http://s017.radikal.ru/i428/1309/28/3457cdf29844.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/8bad9553fe4e45998b49bec8e51a217f)

http://s43.radikal.ru/i100/0907/a7/4f1436bcb317.jpg


That East-Nordid is East-Baltid influenced. See his wide thicker lips and the slightly slanted eyeshape with higher corner. Moreover the hair seems curly, but the Nordids have very soft straight hair what have waves by the gravitation, the comb or the wind, not by the texture of the hair.


"Aryan" is the false term by several NS and WN circles to several different thing. Orininally Aryans were the Indo-European nomadic tribes from the Pontic steppes whos had migrated to the Middle-East, South-Asia and the Far-East too and all of them had been disappeared by the mixing with the local ones. Hence "Aryan" is a bad omen (and nomen) as they have lost the game. We may be able to win it. Yet.

Peikko
09-03-2013, 04:59 PM
That East-Nordid is East-Baltid influenced. See his wide thicker lips and the slightly slanted eyeshape with higher corner. Moreover the hair seems curly, but the Nordids have very soft straight hair what have waves by the gravitation, the comb or the wind, not by the texture of the hair.


"Aryan" is the false term by several NS and WN circles to several different thing. Orininally Aryans were the Indo-European nomadic tribes from the Pontic steppes whos had migrated to the Middle-East, South-Asia and the Far-East too and all of them had been disappeared by the mixing with the local ones. Hence "Aryan" is a bad omen (and nomen) as they have lost the game. We may be able to win it. Yet.
Actually, east baltic is supposed to have nordid influences, not the other way around.

Not a Cop
09-03-2013, 05:29 PM
That East-Nordid is East-Baltid influenced. See his wide thicker lips and the slightly slanted eyeshape with higher corner. Moreover the hair seems curly, but the Nordids have very soft straight hair what have waves by the gravitation, the comb or the wind, not by the texture of the hair.


East Nordids often have wavy hair, sometimes even curly, nothing special

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 08:50 PM
"Aryan" is the false term by several NS and WN circles to several different thing. Orininally Aryans were the Indo-European nomadic tribes from the Pontic steppes whos had migrated to the Middle-East, South-Asia and the Far-East too
and all of them had been disappeared by the mixing with the local ones. Hence "Aryan" is a bad omen (and nomen) as they have lost the game. We may be able to win it. Yet.

They did not all disappear, East Nordics are the best examples of what the original Aryans looked like.

Peikko
09-03-2013, 09:06 PM
They did not all disappear, East Nordics are the best examples of what the original Aryans looked like.
I doubt that. Original "Aryans" were probably "swarthy".

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 09:09 PM
I doubt that. Original "Aryans" were probably "swarthy".

Unlikely.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00439-009-0683-0

To help unravel some of the early Eurasian steppe migration movements, we determined the Y-chromosomal and mitochondrial haplotypes and haplogroups of 26 ancient human specimens from the Krasnoyarsk area dated from between the middle of the second millennium BC. to the fourth century AD. In order to go further in the search of the geographic origin and physical traits of these south Siberian specimens, we also typed phenotype-informative single nucleotide polymorphisms. Our autosomal, Y-chromosomal and mitochondrial DNA analyses reveal that whereas few specimens seem to be related matrilineally or patrilineally, nearly all subjects belong to haplogroup R1a1-M17 which is thought to mark the eastward migration of the early Indo-Europeans. Our results also confirm that at the Bronze and Iron Ages, south Siberia was a region of overwhelmingly predominant European settlement, suggesting an eastward migration of Kurgan people across the Russo-Kazakh steppe. Finally, our data indicate that at the Bronze and Iron Age timeframe, south Siberians were blue (or green)-eyed, fair-skinned and light-haired people and that they might have played a role in the early development of the Tarim Basin civilization. To the best of our knowledge, no equivalent molecular analysis has been undertaken so far.

Peikko
09-03-2013, 09:20 PM
Unlikely.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00439-009-0683-0
And yet the reality strikes back:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ73eTICeLm2P798N7Kkj9CCW6ABYGeC 105UaCgAniJneuMrKlo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/R1a1a_distribution.png

There's also no reason to believe, that they got their blonde hair from mixing with indigenous people of the region.

Neanderthal
09-03-2013, 09:22 PM
Probably blonde hair/blue eyes are paleolithic traits. This 'blonde Aryans' thing is highly unlikely.

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 09:22 PM
And yet the reality strikes back:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ73eTICeLm2P798N7Kkj9CCW6ABYGeC 105UaCgAniJneuMrKlo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/R1a1a_distribution.png

There's also no reason to believe, that they got their blonde hair from mixing with indigenous people of the region.

Indigenous North Europeans were mostly blonde too, and there were more of them than Aryans.
Russia has the purest Aryans.

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 09:24 PM
Probably blonde hair/blue eyes are paleolithic traits. This 'blonde Aryans' thing is highly unlikely.

Nordics are not paleolithic Europeans, they are mostly blonde, and blue eyed. The Aryans living in Siberia, and Central Asia were mostly blonde, and blue eyed.

Peikko
09-03-2013, 09:27 PM
Nordics are not paleolithic Europeans, they are mostly blonde, and blue eyed. The Aryans living in Siberia, and Central Asia were mostly blonde, and blue eyed.
It depends how we define "Paleolithic". But nords have higher amounts of I1.

Neanderthal
09-03-2013, 09:29 PM
Nordics are not paleolithic Europeans
I'm aware of that.

they are mostly blonde, and blue eyed.
No proofs.

The Aryans living in Siberia, and Central Asia were mostly blonde, and blue eyed.
No proofs.

The closest population to the Kurganoids are probably archaic Pontid types (light skin, brown hair, brown eyes.) Blue eyes/blonde hair incidence is mostly due mixing with UP types and borealization IMO.
You show me one 'Aryan' type without CM-Baltid influences/admixture, there is virtually none.

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 09:29 PM
It depends how we define "Paleolithic". But nords have higher amounts of I1.

A person can have a European haplogroup, and still be 99.9% African, and not all Scandinavians are racially Nordic (Aryan).

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 09:32 PM
No proofs.

Alright, what are they then.


No proofs.

I just posted a study.


The closest population to the Kurganoids are probably archaic Pontid types (light skin, brown hair, brown eyes.)

Except I posted a study disproving that.


Blue eyes/blonde hair incidence is mostly due mixing with UP types and borealization IMO.

Prove it.


You show me one 'Aryan' type without CM-Baltid influences/admixture, there is virtually none.

The Aryans looked like East Nordics who have minor CM influences.

Peikko
09-03-2013, 09:33 PM
A person can have a European haplogroup, and still be 99.9% African, and not all Scandinavians are racially Nordic (Aryan).
If talking about phenotypes (which is not the same as race), most Scandinavians aren't Nordid, yes. But neither are Russians.

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 09:43 PM
If talking about phenotypes (which is not the same as race), most Scandinavians aren't Nordid, yes. But neither are Russians.

Most East Nordics are found in Russia though. Scandinavia has more Nordics than Russia as a whole but they're Hallstatt Nordics. I'd guess around 30% of Scandinavians are Nordic, or mostly Nordic.

Hadouken
09-03-2013, 09:52 PM
i am a typical hallstatt nordic

Temujin
09-03-2013, 09:56 PM
There is no ingenious population living in southern regions from Spain to Altai being predominantly blond with pale skin . I've seen pictures of red-haired blue-eyed people from Altai but they were mongoloid. It's a myth created in the last century about Aryans being blond blue-eyed super race. Aryans were Caucasoid, but not blond and blue-eyed.

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 10:02 PM
There is no ingenious population living in southern regions from Spain to Altai being predominantly blond with pale skin . I've seen pictures of red-haired blue-eyed people from Altai but they were mongoloid. It's a myth created in the last century about Aryans being blond blue-eyed super race. Aryans were Caucasoid, but not blond and blue-eyed.

Read the study. The populations in Central Asia, and Siberia today are different from the Bronze age.

Swearengen
09-03-2013, 10:06 PM
When I think of nordid I think of east nordid. They're the most nordid looking.

But I think most Russians are east europid. Baltid altered by nordid and some other stuff.

http://imageshack.us/a/img515/691/easteuropid.png

Temujin
09-03-2013, 10:08 PM
Read the study. The populations in Central Asia, and Siberia today are different from the Bronze age.

One study is not enough. In the next 5 years there will be another study presenting another conclusion. I don't believe pale skin people living in Bronze and Iron age in southern Siberia vanished in thin air.

Smeagol
09-03-2013, 10:11 PM
One study is not enough. In the next 5 years there will be another study presenting another conclusion. I don't believe pale skin people living in Bronze and Iron age vanished in thin air.

Of course they did, they mixed with Mongoloids. Why do you think most of the Bronze age and earlier skeletal remains in Central Asia, and Siberia were mainly Europid?
Anyway, if you have a better study of the pigmentation of the early Aryans, I'd like to see it. Until then I'll believe the study already done.

Temujin
09-03-2013, 10:19 PM
Of course they did, they mixed with Mongoloids. Why do you think most of the Bronze age and earlier skeletal remains in Central Asia, and Siberia were mainly Europid?
Anyway, if you have a better study of the pigmentation of the early Aryans, I'd like to see it. Until then I'll believe the study already done.

Until I read a systematic review of the study or 2-3 more independent studies, the findings of the study are inconclusive. There is so much BS published in the journals in modern days that a group known as Cochrane collaboration was formed to provide systematic reviews of the articles in medical research : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochrane_Collaboration

Peikko
09-04-2013, 06:29 AM
Most East Nordics are found in Russia though. Scandinavia has more Nordics than Russia as a whole but they're Hallstatt Nordics. I'd guess around 30% of Scandinavians are Nordic, or mostly Nordic.

You need to read more anthropology about east nordids. Most anthropologists didn't have such type and Lundman only briefly mentions it. I don't consider it to be a real phenotype

Peikko
09-04-2013, 06:31 AM
When I think of nordid I think of east nordid. They're the most nordid looking.

But I think most Russians are east europid. Baltid altered by nordid and some other stuff.

http://imageshack.us/a/img515/691/easteuropid.png

Yes, if Russians are well preserved Aryans, why aren't they light pigmented nordids? Answer: because Aryans weren't either.

aherne
09-04-2013, 08:23 AM
To clear up the discussion: purest Aryans (Scythians/Sarmatians) simply disappeared following Turkic invasions. Their contribution to Central Asian people is greatly exaggerated (attributing the caucasoid element in Kazakhs and Kirghiz to "Aryan influence" when we know for a fact that Turanid itself is a contact race: mostly Mongoloid with a Caucasoid tendency). The fate of Saka people (Steppe Iranians) was same as the fate of East Germanics (Goths), both disappearing without a trace...

What we are left today is people of PARTIAL Aryan descent (descending from mixtures of Aryan invaders and local peoples). It just seems that in Russians (East Slavs), probably because of their original location bordered Scythian homeland, Aryan contribution is very strong. One can easily and consistently find individuals or even small groups of pure Aryan phenotype. However, by blood these people are "mestizos": so their children can turn just as well to be platter faced ugly Baltids.

Zmey Gorynych
09-04-2013, 08:42 AM
To clear up the discussion: purest Aryans (Scythians/Sarmatians) simply disappeared following Turkic invasions. Their contribution to Central Asian people is greatly exaggerated (attributing the caucasoid element in Kazakhs and Kirghiz to "Aryan influence" when we know for a fact that Turanid itself is a contact race: mostly Mongoloid with a Caucasoid tendency). The fate of Saka people (Steppe Iranians) was same as the fate of East Germanics (Goths), both disappearing without a trace...

What we are left today is people of PARTIAL Aryan descent (descending from mixtures of Aryan invaders and local peoples). It just seems that in Russians (East Slavs), probably because of their original location bordered Scythian homeland, Aryan contribution is very strong. One can easily and consistently find individuals or even small groups of pure Aryan phenotype. However, by blood these people are "mestizos": so their children can turn just as well to be platter faced ugly Baltids.

Man you can talk a lot of crap and the saddest or funniest (depends on how you look at things) part is that you're doing it with a straight face. You actually take all this bollocks that you just posted seriously. Since you're such a big specialist on aryanology what would be the genetic make-up of a perfect aryan !?

d3cimat3d
09-04-2013, 09:27 AM
The Proto-Indo-Europeans were simply the south-east most group of Mesolithic European (Khvalynsk culture) hunter-gatherers. Had they been alive today they would show genetic and phenotype similarities to most Europeans today spanning from Ireland to Belarus. The majority of late stage PIE's (Aryans) looked not Pontid or east-Nordid but Baltid with minor west-Asian/MENA elements from mixing with indigenous inhabitants of Kazakhstan who were also Caucasoid but of the Pamirid, middle-eastern type.

Baltid Tocharian:

http://i41.tinypic.com/208h4kj.jpg

Temujin
09-04-2013, 10:09 AM
The Proto-Indo-Europeans were simply the south-east most group of Mesolithic European (Khvalynsk culture) hunter-gatherers. Had they been alive today they would show genetic and phenotype similarities to most Europeans today spanning from Ireland to Belarus. The majority of late stage PIE's (Aryans) looked not Pontid or east-Nordid but Baltid with minor west-Asian/MENA elements from mixing with indigenous inhabitants of Kazakhstan who were also Caucasoid but of the Pamirid, middle-eastern type.


Human cranium changed over time in many populations shown empirically in several studies.

Roy
09-04-2013, 10:56 AM
To clear up the discussion: purest Aryans (Scythians/Sarmatians) simply disappeared following Turkic invasions. Their contribution to Central Asian people is greatly exaggerated (attributing the caucasoid element in Kazakhs and Kirghiz to "Aryan influence" when we know for a fact that Turanid itself is a contact race: mostly Mongoloid with a Caucasoid tendency). The fate of Saka people (Steppe Iranians) was same as the fate of East Germanics (Goths), both disappearing without a trace...

What we are left today is people of PARTIAL Aryan descent (descending from mixtures of Aryan invaders and local peoples). It just seems that in Russians (East Slavs), probably because of their original location bordered Scythian homeland, Aryan contribution is very strong. One can easily and consistently find individuals or even small groups of pure Aryan phenotype. However, by blood these people are "mestizos": so their children can turn just as well to be platter faced ugly Baltids.

Funny to say the least:p

Ozzy
09-04-2013, 05:11 PM
I doubt that there's a single human being alive who couldn't fit the "genetic mestizo" bill.

Peikko
09-04-2013, 08:13 PM
I don't think any anthropologist considered proto-Indo-Europeans Nordic. Here's an example from Lawrence Angel:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/940437/1/

Conclusion: Meds

Peikko
09-04-2013, 08:14 PM
Polish people are less likely to get classified as Nordic at anthroforums, because people don't realize, that Nordics can be found in Poland too.

Here's textbook Nordics from Poland (plates from Jan Czekanowski):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/cass22/czek/JCnordic.jpg

Peikko
09-04-2013, 08:45 PM
Nordic types from Finland and Lithuania (The Races of Europe; by William Zebina Ripley)
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/BlondFinno-Teutonictypes.jpg

Peikko
09-04-2013, 08:46 PM
^I would have classified that bottom left guy as Börreby :P Based on those pics, Finno-Teutonic is a very common type in Finland.

Smeagol
09-04-2013, 08:49 PM
Conclusion: Meds

They were not Meds. They were too light pigmented, and Meds don't exist on the south Russian steppe, or at least they're rare.

Smeagol
09-04-2013, 08:50 PM
^I would have classified that bottom left guy as Börreby :P Based on those pics, Finno-Teutonic is a very common type in Finland.

Those Finns are mainly Nordic, with CM influence.

Peikko
09-05-2013, 09:49 AM
Those Finns are mainly Nordic, with CM influence.

I wasn't really sure if I should post them to this thread. It's difficult to map different typologies to each other and Ripley didn't have Halstatt Nordic (on the other hand, I don't think anyone else had Fenno-Teutonic type).

sevruk
09-06-2013, 04:33 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gMC8a2kGcg4/SeihW8K_iGI/AAAAAAAAA7U/4Ho3Buwrcdo/s667/11_2.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DSMn9U-KqW4/SeihYCGXQ8I/AAAAAAAAA7k/DyA4BvLQhfk/s672/12_2.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8Ywod-ci69M/SeihsViUAJI/AAAAAAAAA_c/D6clxRlooi4/s665/23_1.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZqzzfxiLhaU/Seihs-D6qBI/AAAAAAAAA_k/mWZjlZ3b508/s669/23_2.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pHgQOtHEZQo/SeihxE4vqAI/AAAAAAAABAc/w_FdPfgAWj4/s332/26_1.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-shz4x8Ua9uA/Seihx5aMFVI/AAAAAAAABAk/YbxUYej_h_c/s333/26_2.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mZD1_Sw2Vl4/SeihySxFzXI/AAAAAAAABAs/7XWEfsr5KLg/s334/26_3.jpg

sevruk
09-06-2013, 04:54 AM
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GSnOIIDEhRk/Seih4snpbyI/AAAAAAAABB8/QFfNjfbrhRk/s667/30_1.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I0Bw8RBFJy4/SeiidVk01XI/AAAAAAAABKI/f9cTZ2H5KNo/s663/5_1.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ba_ton5LeVY/SeiieDOqEKI/AAAAAAAABKQ/x2Zgo4i8arI/s682/5_2.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3MzdC3akivw/Seiig2yftQI/AAAAAAAABLA/5PGZ29vCk58/s332/63_1.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mnkdBzqw3m8/SeijUPrNnrI/AAAAAAAABXE/zSSDG6xnNBc/s323/27_1.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-96diT394sI8/SeijVkzgvxI/AAAAAAAABXU/OQ3wuAtWel8/s660/4_1.jpg

Sharkeatpeople
09-27-2013, 01:43 PM
37872

Útrám
10-03-2013, 01:25 AM
Does James Stewart and Peter Weller belong to some brunette minority?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xEehooYC6Rk/TEOaNb25RdI/AAAAAAAAChc/nNz_wp6rdXM/s1600/Jimmy+Stewart.jpg

http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/PeterWeller.jpg http://www.banzai-institute.com/images/featured/08BBandpeggy.jpg

Bloody
10-05-2013, 08:08 AM
Lars vaular:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Lars_Vaular.2011._104.jpg

sami hyypia (perhaps with some east-nordid tendencies?)

http://www.espn.co.uk/PICTURES/CMS/55400/55487.3.jpg


Wopke de Vegt (hallstatt/corded)

http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/tqgr/image/919/68128-300-442-scale.jpg

http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/tqgr/image/265/2146715-365-500.jpg

rintje Ritsma (hallstatt/Brunn)

http://static.zoom.nl/55ABBB3743C2DE6DEB7381F551662786-straatportretfoto.jpg

http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/tqgr/image/054/2108716-366-500.jpg

Ard Schenk (Hallstatt/Faelid)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JKjSALTpY8s/TdidqWkL0iI/AAAAAAAAG5o/SD3xpmf1euI/s1600/ard_schenk.jpg

Sharkeatpeople
10-05-2013, 02:51 PM
Lars vaular:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Lars_Vaular.2011._104.jpg

Lars Vaular Nordic+Baltic,bad example

Bloody
10-05-2013, 02:57 PM
Lars Vaular Nordic+Baltic,bad example

Do you know what baltid is ? How old are you ? It seems you are quite new in this stuff..

Baltids are round heads this guy have very long head , could pass for spanish atlanto med if he had the right pigmentation.

Sharkeatpeople
10-05-2013, 02:59 PM
sami hyypia (perhaps with some east-nordid tendencies?)

http://www.espn.co.uk/PICTURES/CMS/55400/55487.3.jpg

I think he is East Nordid with Norid tendencies, but not Hallstatt.

Bloody
10-05-2013, 03:03 PM
I think he is East Nordid with Norid tendencies, but not Hallstatt.

I agree although in some of his pics he has nordid tendencies which can appear in halsttat influence.

archangel
10-05-2013, 03:04 PM
depigmented meds....

Bloody
10-05-2013, 03:06 PM
depigmented meds....

Lars Vaular could pass as depigmented med, but someone like wopke de vegt ? Not even close.

archangel
10-05-2013, 03:08 PM
yep they are just light pigmented meds just fisherman peasents nothing more i dont understand how people envy these weaklings and call them barbarians etc.. real deal were north euroasian barbarians such as Scythians and Huns not these scandavian fisherman peasents:cool:

Sharkeatpeople
10-05-2013, 03:09 PM
I agree although in some of his pics he has nordid tendencies which can appear in halsttat influence.
but not to your photo

Not a Cop
10-06-2013, 02:07 AM
Wopke de Vegt (hallstatt/corded)

http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/tqgr/image/919/68128-300-442-scale.jpg

http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/tqgr/image/265/2146715-365-500.jpg



Rather Corded+CM

Ozzy
10-09-2013, 10:27 PM
Do you know what baltid is ? How old are you ? It seems you are quite new in this stuff..

Baltids are round heads this guy have very long head , could pass for spanish atlanto med if he had the right pigmentation.

It's about much more than that. His facial features strike me more as Baltoid than Nordoid. His nose is clearly more upturned than the average example in this thread, even looks a bit piggish in that photo. His cheekbones are also rather exaggerated compared to the average proper Nordid type, at least in relation to his other features. He definitely has a Nordish influence in the sense that his head is more Nordoid than Baltoid, but I agree with Shark.

Roy
10-11-2013, 11:37 PM
Therese Alshammar

http://svenskdam.se/files/2013/02/therese-alshammar-ste.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/4223/z4223578Q.jpg

Ozzy
10-12-2013, 06:32 AM
Therese Alshammar

http://svenskdam.se/files/2013/02/therese-alshammar-ste.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/4223/z4223578Q.jpg

Looks sort of Keltic from the front, like Elizabeth Hurley. Hm

Roy
10-12-2013, 02:11 PM
Looks sort of Keltic from the front, like Elizabeth Hurley. Hm

^ Both have neolithic features, who knows? Therese would look like extraterrestrial in Poland.

WOOHP
10-12-2013, 02:22 PM
Jenny Strömstedt

http://www.resume.se/Thumbnails/3f332505a79e9900d45964937283e05f/250/0/3200082347/4294506487/JennyStromstedtny.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Jenny_Str%C3%B6mstedt_%26_Niklas_Str%C3%B6mstedt.j pg/415px-Jenny_Str%C3%B6mstedt_%26_Niklas_Str%C3%B6mstedt.j pg

Mazik
10-12-2013, 02:44 PM
Harald Nordenson.

http://s21.postimg.org/pytealb47/image.jpg

http://s21.postimg.org/g2sbay5c7/image.jpg

http://s21.postimg.org/hs1ej0l1j/image.jpg

Hadouken
10-12-2013, 02:50 PM
i have found a great example

http://chimpmania.com/forum/images/imported/2012/04/10.png

Ozzy
10-12-2013, 11:55 PM
^ Both have neolithic features, who knows? Therese would look like extraterrestrial in Poland.

You really think that Neolithic features are extraterrestrial in Poland? Are you sure? <_< I've seen and met slavic (polish, russian) looking women who resembled her somewhat.. Similar features. And even if they technically were "American", I don't think they were born in the US. They had accents, and I doubt they'd been here for too long. Maybe they had foreign ancestry, IDK.

I have to say that I do see a fair amount of long-headed/horse faced Polish/Russian blondes amongst their flat headed counterparts, although they all tend to be Noric or Baltic looking. They all tend to cluster together in specific neighborhoods, just as you'd expect.

Leon_C
10-13-2013, 12:25 AM
Harald Nordenson.

http://s21.postimg.org/pytealb47/image.jpg



He has dinaric and faelid influence.

Roy
10-13-2013, 12:31 AM
You really think that Neolithic features are extraterrestrial in Poland? Are you sure? <_< I've seen and met slavic (polish, russian) looking women who resembled her somewhat.. Similar features. And even if they technically were "American", I don't think they were born in the US. They had accents, and I doubt they'd been here for too long. Maybe they had foreign ancestry, IDK.

I have to say that I do see a fair amount of long-headed/horse faced Polish/Russian blondes amongst their flat headed counterparts, although they all tend to be Noric or Baltic looking. They all tend to cluster together in specific neighborhoods, just as you'd expect.


Believe me, she would look very alien in Poland and it cannot be only her long face as this is fairly common. It has nothing common with looking attractive or not as well, just with her being completely out of place as I can't think of anyone similar to Therese who would be Polish. "Neolithic" features alone are not alien for Poland as people are diverse but she is different case.

Ozzy
10-13-2013, 12:43 AM
Believe me, she would look very alien in Poland and it cannot be only her long face as this is fairly common. It has nothing common with her being attractive or not as well, just completely out of place as I can't think of anyone similar to Therese who would be Polish. Neolithic features alone are not alien for Poland but she is different case.
IDK.. None of this has anything to do with how attractive she may or may not be to either one of us. I didn't mean to give that impression, my bad. There are clearly attractive and ugly Polish women out there, as with any other group, really. I'm just trying to figure out what it is exactly that'd be a giveaway to her being a foreigner in a place like Poland. I think she has a pretty flexible look, but what do I know. lol

I didn't realize she was Swedish, though. Hm, weird, but I guess not really. She ain't fitting the TA's stereotypical "nordic" look.

Sharkeatpeople
10-13-2013, 03:15 AM
I didn't realize she was Swedish, though. Hm, weird, but I guess not really. She ain't fitting the TA's stereotypical "nordic" look.

because she has a strong element of Сorded

Roy
10-20-2013, 04:41 PM
?

https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004074_627608323916369_266140763_n.jpg

Ozzy
10-20-2013, 06:29 PM
?

https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004074_627608323916369_266140763_n.jpg

Whatever she is, she's hot. I have a weakness for red heads. :D

fla88
10-25-2013, 04:14 PM
What about David Bowie?

http://i41.tinypic.com/29p3j9v.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/33axuub.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/20kxgxu.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/wguef9.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/wmjuk8.jpg

Harkonnen
10-25-2013, 04:26 PM
I have to now mention that my dad's nickname in his youth was Bowie, supposedly because he looked like Dave Bowie. My dad though is much more nordoid. Dave's nose is very broad and lowbridged compared to my dad's. Personally I think my dad looks more like Kurt Cobain.

Sharkeatpeople
10-25-2013, 05:41 PM
What about David Bowie?

looks like Kelticised Hallstatt

Bloody
10-28-2013, 02:03 AM
What about David Bowie?

http://i41.tinypic.com/29p3j9v.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/33axuub.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/20kxgxu.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/wguef9.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/wmjuk8.jpg


David Bowie is mostly Atlantid/Keltic

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0csc94Ik01robhb3o1_500.jpg

In this Second picture he resembles tennis player Andy murray But in different proportions, Murray is mainly KN with some Atlantid, but Bowie is mainly Altlantid with some kN.

http://www.mcrfb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/A-young-David-Bowie-circa-1967.-Declined-by-Apple-Records-in-1968.3.jpg

I would have guessed him as Scottish/Northern english.

AngSt
10-31-2013, 01:07 AM
Norwegians:
http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1009/36/ef06c7732f5e.jpghttp://s39.radikal.ru/i083/1009/a5/30af3278a1c2.jpg
http://s54.radikal.ru/i146/1009/1d/738cef9981bb.jpghttp://s55.radikal.ru/i147/1009/2b/f564bd24a507.jpg
http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/1009/24/5b02c3e344f9.jpghttp://s60.radikal.ru/i170/1009/fc/5a76203ade47.jpg
http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/0808/50/844c25a76a08.jpghttp://s03.radikal.ru/i176/1009/da/e7e1b3689e7e.jpg
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39187&d=1383181272
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39189&d=1383181275
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39188&d=1383181273
http://s54.radikal.ru/i146/1101/57/5295bb5aef8d.jpg

Not a Cop
10-31-2013, 04:04 PM
Norwegians:
http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1009/36/ef06c7732f5e.jpghttp://s39.radikal.ru/i083/1009/a5/30af3278a1c2.jpg


He is rather an East-nordid, 142 mm of Head height points on strong corded influence

Sharkeatpeople
10-31-2013, 05:44 PM
Norwegians:
http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1009/36/ef06c7732f5e.jpghttp://s39.radikal.ru/i083/1009/a5/30af3278a1c2.jpg

possibly CM infl. also

AngSt
11-01-2013, 12:32 AM
He is rather an East-nordid, 142 mm of Head height points on strong corded influence

There are no East-nordids in Norway.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39259&d=1383264400http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39260&d=1383264401
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39265&d=1383264721http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39264&d=1383264720
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39268&d=1383265196http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39269&d=1383265197
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39270&d=1383265414http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39271&d=1383265415
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39261&d=1383264402http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39262&d=1383264403
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39266&d=1383264925http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39267&d=1383264926

Not a Cop
11-01-2013, 06:30 AM
There are no East-nordids in Norway.



How so? East-Nordids exist in Sweden, Norway, Germany and even Iceland.

Ozzy
11-01-2013, 01:32 PM
There are no East-nordids in Norway.

I call bullshit on this claim. Those Norwegians posted are morphologically very similar to the men you've posted anyway, but there are certainly examples who are even closer to what you're posting, they've probably already BEEN posted for you to sift through in this thread.

AngSt
11-01-2013, 03:52 PM
How so? East-Nordids exist in Sweden, Norway, Germany and even Iceland.


I call bullshit on this claim.

"East-nordid" and "Hallstatt nordid" are mainly geographical terms. The first one is used to call nordiforms in Baltic states, Finland and Eastern Europe; the second one - in Germanic countries and Western Europe. For example, there are a lot of low-skulled nordids in Russia, does this make them Hallstatt nordids? No, they are East-nordids, just like a high-skulled Norwegian is Hallstatt, despite high heads are usually more common for East-nordids.

sry4maEngrish

Not a Cop
11-01-2013, 04:06 PM
"East-nordid" and "Hallstatt nordid" are mainly geographical terms. The first one is used to call nordiforms in Baltic states, Finland and Eastern Europe; the second one - in Germanic countries and Western Europe. For example, there are a lot of low-skulled nordids in Russia, does this make them Hallstatt nordids? No, they are East-nordids, just like a high-skulled Norwegian is Hallstatt, despite high heads are usually more common for East-nordids.

sry4maEngrish

I understand your point, but you are a bit wrong Hallstatt and East-Nordids are not geographical terms- they are typological terms, there is population-based anthropology wich is based on geography, but it is'nt used on anthropological forums, because it is used to describe the population of different areas wholesome, while on forums people are being classified individually.

So there are Hallstatt and East-Nordids terms wich differ metrically and morphologically, although the general difference between thoose types is not so big.

King Claus
11-01-2013, 04:08 PM
How so? East-Nordids exist in Sweden, Norway, Germany and even Iceland.

East nordids in germany? I think that will be pretty rare though.

King Claus
11-01-2013, 04:10 PM
possibly CM infl. also

Possible? Are you out of your mind? This guy has a good amount of cm in him.

King Claus
11-01-2013, 04:11 PM
He is rather an East-nordid, 142 mm of Head height points on strong corded influence

I agree that his morphology is a bit similar to that of a corded, but not as a whole.

MINARDOWICZ
11-01-2013, 04:15 PM
No East Nordids in Norway?!?!? Is that some kind of joke? We all know that there is some genetic overlap with certain parts of Russia in Norway, Finland, and Sweden.

Not a Cop
11-01-2013, 04:27 PM
East nordids in germany? I think that will be pretty rare though.

Try to visit Vorpommern, man:thumb001:

kwp_wp
11-01-2013, 06:18 PM
^haha
that's a good point :)

WOOHP
11-01-2013, 07:30 PM
Try to visit Vorpommern, man:thumb001:

East Nordids are very rare in Scandinavia and Germany, especially in pure form. Maybe that you can find some East Nordid and CM mixes.

OnT

Erik Grönwall

http://hd.se/multimedia/dynamic/00394/124737_1702920_jpg_394123d.jpg

AngSt
11-02-2013, 12:45 AM
Joachim Johansson, Sweden
http://i.imgur.com/P8mleu3.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/PKIznMV.jpg

Lex Immers, Netherlands
http://www.refdag.nl/polopoly_fs/anp_13146409_1_641052!image/471178649.jpghttp://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39388&d=1383352149

Jan Gunnar Solli, Norway
http://s009.radikal.ru/i310/1109/f2/8fd99eb4180c.jpghttp://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39391&d=1383353047

Magnus Svensson, Sweden
http://s008.radikal.ru/i306/1109/7c/c08fe8cb7a50.jpghttp://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39390&d=1383352964

Sharkeatpeople
11-03-2013, 10:07 AM
Possible? Are you out of your mind? This guy has a good amount of cm in him.
woah woah woah !
quieter Dex

Roy
11-04-2013, 06:54 AM
East Nordids are very rare in Scandinavia and Germany, especially in pure form. Maybe that you can find some East Nordid and CM mixes.



Also rare in Poland (in Western at least) - if supposed to look like Russian versions which look alien to me (when I look at East Nordid thread at least). Here Nordids are maybe closer to Hallstatt variant or Nordoid types without strong Corded. Two Swedish guys posted above (Svensson and Johansson) would have not problem passing as Polish - it would not be exceptionally hard to find someone indistuinguishable.

Swearengen
11-07-2013, 03:48 AM
this guy have any non-nordid influences? He's from Ternopil, Ukraine, but he doesn't look east nordid.

The ukrainian nordids I've seen seem too low skulled to be east nordids.

http://smilaforum.org.ua/userpix/616_yarmash_1.jpg

http://lugansk.comments.ua/images/yarmash.jpg

http://dynamo.kiev.ua/media/uploads/yarm6.jpg

WOOHP
11-17-2013, 09:44 PM
Swede

https://stureplan.se/articles/7556/images/article_image_4e0176f4c160fbf5.jpg

http://cdn.stureplan.se/legacy/articles/7854/images/article_image_276c6255591471ae.jpg

http://stureplan.se/media/1517287/lunde%20bro%20&%20mathias%20kalleryd.jpg

Ragnar Thorsson
11-18-2013, 11:59 AM
Here I gathered some Hallstatt Nordid examples (Thanks for some good examples AngSt)

http://i40.tinypic.com/117d1tl.jpg

Roy
11-18-2013, 12:39 PM
Footballer from Northern Poland with additional Baltid influence.


http://kaszubia.koscierzyna.info/images/zawodnicy/lis.jpg

http://s2.fbcdn.pl/7/clubs/52827/team/n/piotr-lis-6.jpg

Not a Cop
11-19-2013, 02:03 AM
Jan Gunnar Solli, Norway
http://s009.radikal.ru/i310/1109/f2/8fd99eb4180c.jpghttp://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39391&d=1383353047


That one is'nt a very good example - he has a high head with hardly sloping forehead + promitent browbridges with deep set eyes, also note the anguar jaw. All this clearly points to Corded predominance. He is obviously still within a Skandonordid variation, but not really a gracialised Hallstatt\Gota type.

http://www.redbull.no/cs/RedBull/RBImages/000/000/879/424/photo610x343a/109261560AM108_New_England_.JPG
http://www.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2010/11/08/1289213134729_285.jpg
http://files.myopera.com/oyvihall/blog/1solli-oyv.jpg


Swede

https://stureplan.se/articles/7556/images/article_image_4e0176f4c160fbf5.jpg

http://cdn.stureplan.se/legacy/articles/7854/images/article_image_276c6255591471ae.jpg

http://stureplan.se/media/1517287/lunde%20bro%20&%20mathias%20kalleryd.jpg

Borreby is too strong.

Roy
11-19-2013, 10:31 AM
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What about Polish example?

Not a Cop
11-19-2013, 04:05 PM
What about Polish example?

Probably somewhere in between of Hallstatt and East with some cm influence, what's his name?

Roy
11-19-2013, 04:06 PM
Probably somewhere in between of Hallstatt and East with some cm influence, what's his name?

Piotr Lis. I couldn't find better pictures.

Mans not hot
11-19-2013, 04:11 PM
Footballer from Northern Poland with additional Baltid influence.


http://kaszubia.koscierzyna.info/images/zawodnicy/lis.jpg

http://s2.fbcdn.pl/7/clubs/52827/team/n/piotr-lis-6.jpg
Look Nordo-robust Baltid. Certainly not pure Nordid.

Sharkeatpeople
11-20-2013, 10:38 PM
Swede


+Faelid/Borreby.

Sharkeatpeople
11-20-2013, 10:41 PM
OnT

Erik Grönwall



also +Borreby.

Sharkeatpeople
11-20-2013, 10:47 PM
That one is'nt a very good example - he has a high head with hardly sloping forehead + promitent browbridges with deep set eyes, also note the anguar jaw. All this clearly points to Corded predominance. He is obviously still within a Skandonordid variation, but not really a gracialised Hallstatt\Gota type


I agree, the guy definitely has Corded features.

Sharkeatpeople
11-24-2013, 12:29 AM
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/sharkeatpeople/image_zpsa8f0f88b.jpg

Sonnenmensch
11-28-2013, 12:16 PM
I think a good example of Hallstatt Nordid textbook could be the German athlete Bianca Kappler:

http://i43.tinypic.com/20fyycj.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/iqjxaa.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/35hlj7k.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/hs6p3n.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/wvd0dz.jpg

Sharkeatpeople
12-04-2013, 05:20 AM
Unknown man,very progressive
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/sharkeatpeople/image_zps706cebb7.jpg

WOOHP
12-04-2013, 05:48 PM
This guy?

http://tespa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/FroggenWatermarked.png

http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=128058&d=1371394005

Furnace
12-04-2013, 05:54 PM
This guy?

http://tespa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/FroggenWatermarked.png

http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=128058&d=1371394005

Looks more like the eastern type.

WOOHP
12-04-2013, 09:21 PM
Looks more like the eastern type.

East Nordid? I don't know.

Sharkeatpeople
12-05-2013, 06:19 AM
East Nordid? I don't know.
Look E.Nordic +CM.

WOOHP
12-05-2013, 12:23 PM
Look E.Nordic +CM.

He's Danish.

Sharkeatpeople
12-05-2013, 01:56 PM
He's Danish.

is not so important as you think.

WOOHP
12-05-2013, 02:22 PM
is not so important as you think.

What?

I did not imply anything.

Sharkeatpeople
12-05-2013, 02:25 PM
What?

I did not imply anything.
Ah, ok, thnx for the info then:)

Neuron
12-05-2013, 04:48 PM
I think a good example of Hallstatt Nordid textbook could be the German athlete Bianca Kappler:

http://i43.tinypic.com/20fyycj.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/iqjxaa.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/35hlj7k.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/hs6p3n.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/wvd0dz.jpg

She appears to have some minor Borreby features, but overall a good example I would say.

Sonnenmensch
12-09-2013, 02:32 PM
Another good examples:

http://i39.tinypic.com/24q4cit.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/21103yc.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/2yv6nv4.jpg

safinator
12-21-2013, 09:37 AM
Probably not pure Hallstatt but there's definitely some strong influences.

http://i.imgur.com/ImZKUBu.png

Roy
01-03-2014, 08:29 AM
Bartosz Salamon, football player.

http://cdn30.se.smcloud.net/t/photos/thumbnails/112465/bartosz_salamon_580x0_rozmiar-niestandardowy.jpg

https://martina22acm.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/salamon-poland-6.jpg

http://cdn2.se.smcloud.net/t/photos/thumbnails/138540/bartosz_salamon_580x0_rozmiar-niestandardowy.jpg

http://www.pzpn.pl/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/reprezentacje/reprezentacja-a/aktualnosci/salamon-specjalnie-dla-nas/28059009-1-pol-PL/Salamon-specjalnie-dla-nas_mainnews1.jpg

Roy
01-04-2014, 05:41 PM
German woman.

http://www.hthc.de/temp/image/eab2de2193478fab5ab8d858fab24914_0_690_c.jpg

aherne
01-05-2014, 05:39 AM
German woman.

http://www.hthc.de/temp/image/eab2de2193478fab5ab8d858fab24914_0_690_c.jpg

Bad example. Looks like a long-faced Baltid.

Bobby Martnen
01-05-2014, 09:49 PM
the noses remind me of my friend louie

Sharkeatpeople
01-06-2014, 12:10 AM
Bad example. Looks like a long-faced Baltid.

E.Baltid/Baltid+Nordid.

Bloody
01-13-2014, 03:02 AM
Here I gathered some Hallstatt Nordid examples (Thanks for some good examples AngSt)

http://i40.tinypic.com/117d1tl.jpg

The first guy from the lower row (rintje ritsma) is corded/hallstat with some brunn influences (which is typical of frisians and groningers), he has even the typical curly brunn hair when long.

Lower row in the middle and the one in the righ upper row also have some small dalofaelid strains.

Peikko
01-23-2014, 04:05 PM
Mikko and Matti Oivanen (brothers):
http://www.lentopalloliitto.fi/%40Bin/16144376/Mikko%20Oivanen.jpeg
http://www.scoutman.net/uploads/2011/06/Oivanen%2BMatti_5.jpg

Peikko
01-23-2014, 05:29 PM
Roope Ahonen:
http://www.borasbasket.se/uploads/Roope%20Ahonen.jpg

Peikko
01-23-2014, 05:31 PM
Mikko Koivisto is a bit altered.
http://www.perspectivebasketball.com/banco/imagenes/Mikko%20Headshot.jpg

aherne
01-23-2014, 06:22 PM
Mikko Koivisto is a bit altered.
http://www.perspectivebasketball.com/banco/imagenes/Mikko%20Headshot.jpg

^ This is "altered". And this is "Halstatt Nordid"?:
http://www.borasbasket.se/uploads/Roope%20Ahonen.jpg
Are you crazy? Does this guy looks Germanic to you? He's about as Nordid as Yasser Arafat...

Lemon Kush
01-23-2014, 06:26 PM
Tim Jenniskens:

http://hoofdklassehockey.nl/wp-content/uploads/Tim-Jenniskens.jpeg

Harkonnen
01-23-2014, 06:40 PM
^ This is "altered". And this is "Halstatt Nordid"?:
http://www.borasbasket.se/uploads/Roope%20Ahonen.jpg
Are you crazy? Does this guy looks Germanic to you? He's about as Nordid as Yasser Arafat...

At first I was all like, oh boy, MrKIA spredding his crap again, but then I looked closer & I must say that I have to agree, looks very halstattian. Maybe compare maybe

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troe291b.jpg

Same jaws and everything.

DebtCollector
01-24-2014, 11:12 AM
lol this guy looks more germanic than the average finn, that's for sure. Must be something about the mouth shape, maybe eyes too, which make him look not that smart.
http://sverigesradio.se/diverse/appdata/isidor/images/news_images/1018/3113531_570_321.jpg
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Gj8DeyKaShY/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.sss.fi/uutiset/urheilu/369066_515h.JPG

Harkonnen
01-24-2014, 11:25 AM
Well strong statements there about the eyes. But you have to take a look at Ismo's eyes here at 3.16, perfect fox eyes ;) Also at 0.04 Hohko looks absolutely wog.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZzEeuL3cWM

... Well other's are born to roam. I guess in the wild you get certain glee in the eye.

DebtCollector
01-24-2014, 11:40 AM
It's the slight droopiness of his eyes which give him a kebab impression. Not so much about the round-eye vs chinky eye division.

Peikko
01-24-2014, 01:03 PM
^ This is "altered". And this is "Halstatt Nordid"?:
Are you crazy? Does this guy looks Germanic to you? He's about as Nordid as Yasser Arafat...


It's the slight droopiness of his eyes which give him a kebab impression. Not so much about the round-eye vs chinky eye division.
WTF are you guys babbling about? His eyes are atypical, but normal. His pretty much textbook Halstattian, can't pass in ROMAnia.

simple_guy
01-24-2014, 01:05 PM
I think what aherne means by Halstatt is a pure, refined look which is completely absent from that guy
halstatt nordids have sharp noses, those guys don'thave that

Peikko
01-24-2014, 01:11 PM
I think what aherne means by Halstatt is a pure, refined look which is completely absent from that guy
halstatt nordids have sharp noses, those guys don'thave that
No, Nordids can have different nose shape. Otherwise, you would have hard time finding any examples for this thread. Textbook examples:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe271.jpg
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe272.jpg
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe273.jpg

Peikko
01-24-2014, 01:17 PM
Christoffer Rambo:


http://www.handball-planet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/rambo.jpg

http://handnews.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/WEB_Image-T-skjorte-Christoffer-Rambo-152-647248189.jpeg

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00686/Christian_Spanne__R_686097i.jpg