Mariusz Wach - Polish boxer

[Madonna]

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classify his phenotype and where can he pass?

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8099/mariuszwachpolskaduze00.jpg
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http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9305/wachvskliczko640x360cro.jpg
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[Corvus]

I have seen his fight. He gave Klitschko a hard time.
He looks very much Baltid with strong CM - extremly bad ass Slavic looking
he has a beautiful wife btw

[Madonna]

I havent seen his wife need to search :)

[Virtuous]

Looks like Poland's Ivan Drago.

[Toretto]

I have seen his fight. He gave Klitschko a hard time.
He looks very much Baltid with strong CM - extremly bad ass Slavic looking
he has a beautiful wife btw


Looks like Poland's Ivan Drago.



i agree :D


Extreme CM + Baltid

[Clawgauth]

powerful cm + baltid maybe dinarid admixture

[dralos]

unreduced cm with baltid/nordid influences

[Vukodav]

CM/West Baltid

[sevruk]

unreduced cm with baltid/nordid influences
This

[Suvorov]

CM/Dinarid mix,nothing Baltid here lol.

[RoadWarrior]

I agree with Slavic here,Dinarid/Cromagnid,I have an aquistance who looks like this guy's twin

[Zmey Gorynych]

CM/Dinarid mix,nothing Baltid here lol.
I agree, there is no nordid in him either but he seems to have acromegaly, that chin is surreal :)

I noticed that many people use baltid as a generic term for any kind of CM or CM derived phenotype from the east which is obviously not accurate. In his case the CM is unreduced therefore could be named Eastern-CM or Balto-Cro-Magnon.

[Suvorov]

If I were a boxer would not want to meet him in the ring. He is one scary looking man.:D

[Rouxinol]

Basically Dinarid approaching Norid or Dinarid with Nordoid influences. He has mandibular prognathism.

[King Claus]

Balto cm with Strong dinarid and nordid influence

[bimo]

baltid+CM

[Germaniac]

Faelid-Dinarid.

[Leon_C]

Balto Cm + Dinarid

[Kazuma]

dinaricized CM (he is a recombination between two CM subraces, baltid and faelid)

[Hevo]

Balto-CM+ Dinarid. Looks slavic and very polish and his chin is epic.

[Madonna]

hehe yes I think his chin is unique :D haha

[Dacul]

Baltid+east nordid,his forehead is not tall enough to have dinarid influences.
See that very deep chin that is something from east nordid,same with nose shape.
His head is mesocephalic at max,take a more careful look.

[Midori]

Norid/CM

[Su]

CM

[Ozzy]

Baltid+east nordid,his forehead is not tall enough to have dinarid influences.
See that very deep chin that is something from east nordid,same with nose shape.
His head is mesocephalic at max,take a more careful look.

I've seen plenty of people classified as East Nordids on here that didn't have "deep chins", they did mostly have really long chins vertically as far as I can tell, not necessarily horizontally. They've also been noted for having a tendency towards Retro-Prognathism.

He looks CM and Dinarid to me, but basically CM with a dinaric overall look with the nose.. I guess both CM and Dinarids can have sloping foreheads, but the flat occiput could be Dinaric as easily as it is Baltic, no.. ? I mean, there's nothing Baltic about his eyes or nose. I don't see how else he could look Baltid.

Does this (http://www.jazzkaar.ee/old/pics/MargusVaher_250.jpg) guy have such a "deep" chin horizontally? No, he almost looks retro-prognathic to me and yet he's only been classified as East Nordid and no one really bats a lash.

[Mans not hot]

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8703/fbd587675a318d736fbe875.jpg
There's difference between distinctive Ukrainian and distinctive South Pole (Cracowian, to be precise) - the latter is more robust.

[atom14]

There's difference between distinctive Ukrainian and distinctive South Pole (Cracowian, to be precise) - the latter is more robust.

I often hear, that granny Klitschko brothers (mother of father) is jewish. But Vitali and Wladimir looks Ukrainian, in my opinion

[Mans not hot]

I often hear, that granny Klitschko brothers (mother of father) is jewish. But Vitali and Wladimir looks Ukrainian, in my opinion
Source?

[atom14]

Source?


ok) from Russian wikipedia:
Отец — Владимир Родионович Кличко (также Романович; 24 апреля 1947 — 13 июля 2011, Киев) — военный атташе посольства Украины в Германии и НАТО, генерал-майор.[3] Отец боксёров братьев Кличко.
Владимир Кличко родился 24 апреля 1947 года в семье сотрудника милиции, в прошлом начальника паспортного стола села Вильшаны Черкасской области Украинской ССР Родиона Петровича Кличко и учительницы начальных классов и украинского языка Тамары Ефимовны Кличко (урождённой Этинзон[4]), родом из Смелы той же Черкасской области и выпускницы Корсунского педагогического училища. Во время немецкой оккупации Смелы Родион Петрович укрывал свою жену в подполье, в то время как её семья погибла в гетто и умер их старший сын Владимир[5]. После войны они были высланы в Казахстан, где родились их сын Владимир и две дочери — Раиса и Анна.
http://www.jewish.ru/theme/cis/2011/07/news994298297.php (something about Klitchko's family(on russian)- Grandmother klitschko brothers hid from nazis in a subfield of house Rodion Klitschko, who is brothers grandfather ( because she is jewish)
About Klitschko's origin it is written in some ukrainian jewish journal, who name is "Lekhaim", in article in russian name "От кипы до капы" Link- http://www.lechaim.ru/ARHIV/140/kipa.htm

[Mans not hot]

Well, even if its true, then Klitschko doesn't look Jewish. He look what he is - uniquely Ukrainian.

[atom14]

Well, even if its true, then Klitschko doesn't look Jewish. He look what he is - uniquely Ukrainian.


At least, Wladimir in one of his interview said about Russian and Ukrainian people ( we are slavs brothers and we one blood), that is he he considers himself slavic. And i don't absolutely completely trust some jewish journal, because that just jewish journal, no more. And Klitschko's granny could be only jewish surname. She can transmitted from distant ancestor.

[Sandman]

nordid - CM +dinarid influences