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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    ^^

    Outdated. From the kingdom of Tartessos to the present day the Moors are a paragraph in our vast history.
    Wasn't Andalusia repopulated by Spaniards from the North after the Reconquista?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Wasn't Andalusia repopulated by Spaniards from the North after the Reconquista?
    It was









    The OP is one of those Cantabrian-leaning individuals, far from being rare, although there's still plenty of variation in Andalucia

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    @Gallop. here are the Andalusian references - K13 and K15. You got much less East Med for some reason.

    Spanish_Andalucia

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 39.07
    2 West_Med 29.07
    3 East_Med 14.11
    4 Baltic 8.19
    5 West_Asian 3.83
    6 Red_Sea 1.95
    7 Northeast_African 1.28
    8 Siberian 0.63
    9 South_Asian 0.60
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.57
    11 Oceanian 0.40
    12 East_Asian 0.29
    13 Amerindian 0.02

    Spanish_Andalucia

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 31.45
    2 West_Med 23.21
    3 North_Sea 15.69
    4 East_Med 11.30
    5 Baltic 5.58
    6 West_Asian 3.99
    7 Eastern_Euro 2.99
    8 Red_Sea 2.49
    9 Northeast_African 1.32
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.52
    11 South_Asian 0.48
    12 Siberian 0.46
    13 Oceanian 0.31
    14 Southeast_Asian 0.18
    15 Amerindian 0.04

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    @Gallop. here are the Andalusian references - K13 and K15. You got much less East Med for some reason.
    The reason is personal and regional variation, single references have the issue of being just an averaged result that can be misleading because they cannot capture all variation that exists within a given population. Her result can be perfectly normal, even if it's not close the reference. I'm not close to the Portuguese reference either, I even have a distance of 9 on K15

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    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1 	Spanish_Aragon 	4.43
    2 	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 	4.6
    3 	Spanish_Andalucia 	5.39
    4 	Spanish_Valencia 	5.43
    5 	Spanish_Cantabria 	6.22
    6 	Southwest_French 	6.48
    7 	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 	6.76
    8 	Spanish_Murcia 	6.95
    9 	Spanish_Extremadura 	7.5
    10 	Spanish_Cataluna 	8.53
    11 	Portuguese 	9.18
    12 	Spanish_Galicia 	11.04
    13 	French_Basque 	11.98

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Wasn't Andalusia repopulated by Spaniards from the North after the Reconquista?
    Yes, but when the Almohads arrived in what is now Andalucia, 500,000 natives emerged: Hispanic-Romans, Hispano-Goths, Celtiberians, Iberians or what they have misnamed "Mozarabic" since it is a relatively modern term invented by the historians. Then those displaced natives were living in the north of Spain during the entire Muslim occupation, perhaps later they moved to Castile. The issue is that those displaced who had to leave their land were the engine of the reconquest because by oral tradition or feelings would long to recover the land they had to abandon, an engine that might not have simply had the inhabitants of the north by themselves . It is my hypothesis: The 500,000 natives of the peninsular south are the engine of the reconquest. So if later it was repopulated with people from the north, maybe many of them did not return to their land 800 years later, perhaps already mixed with those from the north, so therefore genetically there are no significant differences between north and south of Spain.

    Is someone going to explain to me the data that I have put?
    The theme of the Moors in Spain are 8 lines of our extensive history. How many topics did the French or Central European romantic authors create when they traveled to Spain, they saw 4 Moorish monuments and they began to invent and fantasize about Spain, it is so old-fashioned and tiresome.

    Also during the Napoleonic occupation a French officer wrote that the women in Cordoba sat on the floor and were covered, revealing only their eyes. Imagine that fattest lie. The only thing that could happen to me is that the parents or husbands would invent that disguise so that their women would not be raped because otherwise it is unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    @Gallop. here are the Andalusian references - K13 and K15. You got much less East Med for some reason.

    Spanish_Andalucia

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 39.07
    2 West_Med 29.07
    3 East_Med 14.11
    4 Baltic 8.19
    5 West_Asian 3.83
    6 Red_Sea 1.95
    7 Northeast_African 1.28
    8 Siberian 0.63
    9 South_Asian 0.60
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.57
    11 Oceanian 0.40
    12 East_Asian 0.29
    13 Amerindian 0.02

    Spanish_Andalucia

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 31.45
    2 West_Med 23.21
    3 North_Sea 15.69
    4 East_Med 11.30
    5 Baltic 5.58
    6 West_Asian 3.99
    7 Eastern_Euro 2.99
    8 Red_Sea 2.49
    9 Northeast_African 1.32
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.52
    11 South_Asian 0.48
    12 Siberian 0.46
    13 Oceanian 0.31
    14 Southeast_Asian 0.18
    15 Amerindian 0.04
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    Population
    North_Sea 20.35 Pct
    Atlantic 31.76 Pct
    Baltic 4.75 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 2.31 Pct
    West_Med 23.82 Pct
    West_Asian 6.42 Pct
    East_Med 3.13 Pct
    Red_Sea 3.37 Pct
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.99 Pct
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.16 Pct
    Northeast_African 2.55 Pct
    Sub-Saharan 0.41 Pct

    Thanks! What can be the reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
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    Me k15

    Population
    North_Sea 20.35 Pct
    Atlantic 31.76 Pct
    Baltic 4.75 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 2.31 Pct
    West_Med 23.82 Pct
    West_Asian 6.42 Pct
    East_Med 3.13 Pct
    Red_Sea 3.37 Pct
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.99 Pct
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.16 Pct
    Northeast_African 2.55 Pct
    Sub-Saharan 0.41 Pct

    Thanks! What can be the reason?
    Maybe your specific area of ancestry had a higher rate of northern settlers, maybe you have Basque ancestry, or maybe it's simply your own variation. But there's no reason why people need to be like their regional average, most aren't, we aren't made in a factory

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    Depends I was made in a Sex Factory

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilhoV View Post
    Depends I was made in a Sex Factory

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    Nice results, also helped me once more related to North African. Thanks.

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