Croatian man killed in Ireland "for speaking Croatian"

[CordedWhelp]

What a damn shame that a life was lost over such a retarded reason. RIP.

[Scarface F]

I was 100% sure killer was some Albos subhuman who thought they are speaking Serbian.

Suspects are locals.

IRISH police have searched the home of the suspected leader of the gang believed to have beaten Croatian Josip Štrok to death. They confiscated a mobile phone, writes the Irish Independent.

Police have identified four suspects in the murder of Josip Štrok (31), who died after a savage attack in Clondalkin on March 30. Štrok and his friend were attacked by a gang while they were walking in the suburbs of Dublin, in the west of the city, shortly after 10 pm in the night. Investigators have now identified four men they believe were involved in the attack, including the alleged ringleader, the Irish Independent writes.

The leader of the gang was previously known to the police because he had been investigated for drug-related offenses in the past. He is also known for publishing right-wing rhetoric and anti-immigrant messages.

https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/...e/2556458.aspx

[oszkar07]

Yes, this is a regular tactic of his.


Yes we all agree, this is obvious to the point of being banal.

But are you going to psycho-analyse and drug-test and investigate the life circumstances of every prostitute,
on every corner and at every brothel? No.

The most honest, most direct, least expensive, and least biased/arbitrary approach is to simply shut down these operations,
or heavily regulate and restrict them, and help the women find a decent job, home, therapy, etc.


You are trying to compare prostitutes to HEROIC dangerous jobs that save people's lives?

And all of the above are trained to defend themselves legally, and nurses have guards that do NOT abuse them like pimps.

And violence against them is punished, is NOT normalised and widely under-reported like abuse in the sex industry.



How often is that? And surely they stay rich and do not blow all of their money on drugs and personal debts?


Many people are against gambling, too.

Like prostitution, gambling:

-contributes nothing to society
-promotes and feeds addiction
-feeds organised crime
-normalises corruption and crime (and casual violence against women in the case of prostitution, from the john or the pimp)
-attracts an unsavoury demographic element

And don't give me me examples of Las Vegas or rare rich prostitutes (who do not blow all of their money on drugs).

This is the broken window fallacy of economics.
"Breaking windows is AKSHUALLY good for the economy because it makes the glass-maker rich."

The truth is that prostitution, gambling and drugs do not create or add value,

they only take money away from the productive economy/society that would have been spent elsewhere.

A wise government incentivises its people to spend their money in more wholesome, beneficial ways.


You have contributed zero objectivity or data to this discussion,

only lame memes, cliches, excuses, petty personal attacks, and moral relativism as incoherent as rambling sentences,

and banalities that everyone agrees with.

So spare us the lecture, please.

Hi BroFo, thanks for responding to my response to Grace,

You are vominting out the same dribble that you have done for the umpteenth time and you are calling people banal.

When you fall asleep you might get lucky to dream about running the Totalitarian society you so muh crave like its your own little North Korea
otherwise in the meantime all you will do same as Grace is bitch and moan stamping your feet virtue signalling but this issue and the women in it that you claim to care so much about - in realty you will DO NOTHING , oh but you mentioned it a million times on the Apricity which is a huuuge contribution Im sure now the world will change. Go back to your Totalitarian dreams where you can STOP the Dumb Hoes as You called them for their own good as you said.

[Grace O'Malley]

Hi BroFo, thanks for responding to my response to Grace,

You are vominting out the same dribble that you have done for the umpteenth time and you are calling people banal.

When you fall asleep you might get lucky to dream about running the Totalitarian society you so muh crave like its your own little North Korea
otherwise in the meantime all you will do same as Grace is bitch and moan stamping your feet virtue signalling but this issue and the women in it that you claim to care so much about - in realty you will DO NOTHING , oh but you mentioned it a million times on the Apricity which is a huuuge contribution Im sure now the world will change. Go back to your Totalitarian dreams where you can STOP the Dumb Hoes as You called them for their own good as you said.

See you are doing it again oszkar. Instead of discussing the subject you are accusing people like me that disagree as virtue signalling and that I DO NOTHING. You need to argue to the topic. We are discussing prostitution which I have very strong views about. It's not a argument to say oh well you don't agree but you DO NOTHING. If you disagree with something is your answer to that to criticise the person and tell them they are bitching and moaning and that they do nothing? It's a discussion oszkar. You should be debating the topic not using those type of tactics with people. Anyway as I've said numerous times on here I don't attack or criticise the person making the argument and I also don't hold animosity if people disagree with me. It makes people think. We should be mature enough to discuss these controversial topics without getting personal with people. Also when people disagree with something then that doesn't mean that because they oppose something they have to fix it.

[Grace O'Malley]

In all seriousness now, do you really believe that?

Don't you? You do understand that it is based on demand. If they stop the punters prostitution will be greatly reduced.

[Grace O'Malley]

There is a misquote from me in post 677.



I didn't say that.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Decriminalisation should not require a budget.
The rate of drug addiction has to do with other things:
the price of drugs, law enforcement, incarceration, the conservatism of the society, the quality of the population, etc.

It requires a budget because in Portugal decriminalization means drug abuse is no longer a criminal issue but instead a health issue.

Here is my thread on Portugal and their approach to drugs.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...52#post7957652

[Anglo-Celtic]

This thread went from a story about a senseless murder to a heated debate on prostitution. The drift is at Antarctic proportions! I think that men and women should be able to engage in the consensual buying and selling of sex since there are a zillion other consensual sex acts that don't involve payments for said acts. Of course, an ex gigolo *would* say that.

[Anglo-Celtic]

There is a misquote from me in post 677.



I didn't say that. I said that I don't care if they blow coke off a dead hooker's stomach in a seedy hotel room.

It's terrible. I can't believe that anybody would change people's comments like that.

[Incal]

Don't you? You do understand that it is based on demand. If they stop the punters prostitution will be greatly reduced.

Prostitution will exist as long as men sexual needs are not properly satisfied. The fact there's not much demand for sexual workers in places like Sweden or Iceland is not really due to the ban but because the local women will fuck any dude before he can even finish saying hello. Such measures would never work in the southern hemisphere.