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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post
    The west is weak and its leaders have been in majority incapable old men and women, too meek, too afraid.
    I hope more tense situation in Middle East, so these vampires will fuck off from Ukraine and Balkans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Hahaha Trump would serve for example Baltic nazi midgets to Russia for breakfast.
    He said he would not defend nato members, but negotiate with Russia.
    Sounds like a spin for domestic 85 IQ electorate. It would mean end of NATO. I doubt Putin would dare to attack NATO member anyway. He could eventually attack lone weakling like Moldova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    I didn't notice you complained about Ukrainian children taken to Russia to re-education camps.
    That's some non existent thing, vulgar propaganda with western target audience, sounds as absolute nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    That's some non existent thing, vulgar propaganda with western target audience, sounds as absolute nonsense.
    It is not, there are YouTube videos about that lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Hahaha Trump would serve for example Baltic nazi midgets to Russia for breakfast.
    He said he would not defend nato members, but negotiate with Russia.
    What Trump says should always be taken with doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Sounds like a spin for domestic 85 IQ electorate. It would mean end of NATO. I doubt Putin would dare to attack NATO member anyway. He could eventually attack lone weakling like Moldova.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post

    I guess I overestimated your IQ.

    Article 5 provides that if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked.
    Article 5 is foundation of NATO and only reason Baltic states are in. In case it wouldn't be honored, bye bye NATO and US geopolitical domination in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post
    What Trump says should always be taken with doubt.
    He speaks in spins because many NATO members didn't spend enough on military as they should. Doubt that's the case today lolz. Baltic states, Poland and Scandinavia (+ Germany) provide biggest amount of arms to Ukraine (not a NATO member but they are increasing military spending and production).

    Dušan lives in fairytale world of wishful thinking hoping big bad Russia will liberate "Serb lands" for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We've got 3 mln new citizens, Slavic and Russian speaking, since the beginning of this war. Cities are full with cars with Ukrainian car plates here, lots of people from ex-Ukraine all over here.
    Unregarded the 2.5 mln in Crimea I calculated 6 mln inhabitants gain in the now Russian territories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Crimea should remain in Russia, it was never truly Ukrainian anyway. I don't see why should Ukraine cede Donbass to Russia.
    And I don't see why Ukraine should at all be a separate country from Russia. They should join. The whole existence of an independent Ukraine is founded on the imgaination that it was never intended to be taken serious. The language should be protected, though. But in fact the Ukraine has been more intolerant in language questions than Russia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Donbass had Ukrainian ethnic majority before the war and they overwhelmingly voted for indipendent Ukraine in 1991. It's rightful Ukrainian land.
    It still has an Ukrainian ethnic majority, at least how the ethnicity is counted in Russia. You are Ukrainian on paper and mostly Russian speaking (in Donbass). Maybe you then are Ukrainian. But these Ukrainians do not want to get their Russian language forbidden by the folks in Kiew and this is why they had a a civil war since 2014.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Whole coup was illegal and US backed (business as usual, most of these colored revolutions are imported by western interest groups) it doesn't mean rage of Ukrainians was unjustified. Guy who won elections won them also due to promise to get closer to EU but failed to deliver those promises.
    But isn't that typical even for democracy? The one who promises most and even incompatrible things gets elected and does not fulfill his promises. Zelensky was elected with the promise to end the war in the Donbass, which he also didn't care for before the Russian invasion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    And most important thing showing ill intentions of Russia towards Ukraine; Ukraine gave up its nukes in 1990s in exchange for security guarantees by Russia. Russia broke this guarantees. If Ukraine had nuclear arsenal, there would be no war so them relying on Russia proved fatal mistake.
    Yes. But all countries at that time tried to restrict the ownership for nukes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    I didn't notice you complained about Ukrainian children taken to Russia to re-education camps.
    True, because I don't know the facts. If there are orphan children from Russian-orientated parents, to which safe haven shall they evacuate them? Send them for re-education to Kiew to those who likely killed their parents or leave them in the war area?
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