Russian Empire, Russian Republic or USSR 2.0 ?

[Hochmeister]

Petersburg and me have been arguing about the nature of Russian statehood. And I'd like to make a separate topic, avoiding an offtop et cetera.



My point is: such regions like Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic States can't live without an autonomy (even the Russian North of Kazakhstan).

All these lands have their own specifics and it is very important for them to keep the specifics preserved. They differ from Central Russia (same with the city of St Petersburg too).

If Moskovia wants to restore the Empire, it can be achieved only via a new Union, with self-ruling in each region and with a sincere respect from the Imperial Metropoly.

P.S. Only the European regions are added into the map.

[Illancha]

Petersburg and me have been arguing...

My point is: such regions like Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic States can't live without an autonomy (even the Russian North of Kazakhstan).

All these lands have their own specifics and it is very important for them to keep the specifics preserved. They differ from Central Russia (same with the city of St Petersburg too).

'Petersburg and I have been arguing...'

Anyway, what about the Caucasus? Those nations have their own 'specifics' as well. Should they not be preserved?

I vote Russian country, purely Russian with no lands from other regions.

[Hussar]

Petersburg and me have been arguing about the nature of Russian statehood. And I'd like to make a separate topic, avoiding an offtop et cetera.



My point is: such regions like Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic States can't live without an autonomy (even the Russian North of Kazakhstan).

All these lands have their own specifics and it is very important for them to keep the specifics preserved. They differ from Central Russia (same with the city of St Petersburg too).

If Moskovia wants to restore the Empire, it can be achieved only via a new Union, with self-ruling in each region and with a sincere respect from the Imperial Metropoly.

P.S. Only the European regions are added into the map. The Polonized Lvov is excluded.

Who cares what a greek westerner like you could think about such questions ? I apologize, but i'm pretty skeptical about western peoples offering their "neutral advice" about what Russia (and post-soviet space) should or shouldn't be. Sorry.

I know the matter very well by personal experience (i'm from EU but i live in Russia)

[RussiaPrussia]

obviously if russia would get all these terriotories chechenya should be indepedent

[Illancha]

Who cares what a greek westerner like you could think about such questions?

Are you referring to me as a Greek Westerner?

Hahahahaha!

[Illancha]

obviously if russia would get all these terriotories chechenya should be indepedent

Yay! That's all I ask for.

[Petersburg]

Not Russian Empire nor R. Republic nor USSR 2.0 - only Russian national state, which we lost in 1917.
How do you want to get Baltic states? Through the war? We will look like some Kurds in eyes of the world. I think we need only Ukraine, Belorussia, and Northern Kazakhstan. Only peacefull economical and cultural annexation, but it's impossible without ethnic Russians in government - Asian monkeys thinking only about stealing money and new cars.

[Illancha]

Not Russian Empire nor R. Republic nor USSR 2.0 - only Russian national state, which we lost in 1917.
How do you want to get Baltic states? Through the war? We will look like some Kurds in eyes of the world. I think we need only Ukraine, Belorussia, and Northern Kazakhstan. Only peacefull economical and cultural annexation, but it's impossible without ethnic Russians in government - Asian monkeys thinking only about stealing money and new cars.

I don't understand how incorporating other countries and territories is supposed to create a Russian National State. Sounds more like Russian International State to me.

[Petersburg]

I don't understand how incorporating other countries and territories is supposed to create a Russian National State. Sounds more like Russian International State to me.

Because Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians are the part of one nation. By the way, Chechnya shouldn't be independent - they will have built some crazy Khalifat. I think we should make simplified visa regime for Chechen people and deport them to their friend - Turkey.

[Illancha]

Because Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians are the part of one nation. By the way, Chechnya shouldn't be independent - they will have built some crazy Khalifat. I think we should make simplified visa regime for Chechen people and deport them to their friend - Turkey.

Oh so exactly like you did to the Adyghe?

Talk of a Khalifat would never have started if Russia respected the peace agreement of 1996.