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    Quote Originally Posted by Demhat View Post
    whereas Pamirid is the least Turanid like phenotype from the listed once, since its predominantly Caucasoid with slight mongoloid influence, and it is mostly represented among the Tajiks from Tajikistan.

    Aralid is what most old school anthropologists consider as the most common type among Turanids.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mjora View Post
    Agrippa doesn't even consider it as a Caucasoid -Mongoloid hybrid race.Pamirids are Caucasoid.But they are mainly found in what Iranians called Turan,so it's called Turanid.


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    Wow, what a look I concur to Mjora. Tadjiks are, according to my knowledge based on western schoolars, non-turkic Turanids. In a few days I will post some example pictures concerning this topic to distinguish between Cromagnoid-C, Cromagnoid-C+Turanid and Pamiro-Turanid.

    Demhat, can you give us some sources regarding the "Aralid" type?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjora View Post
    Agrippa doesn't even consider it as a Caucasoid -Mongoloid hybrid race.Pamirids are Caucasoid.But they are mainly found in what Iranians called Turan,so it's called Turanid.



    And there is also a simple Reason for this. Turan is a Iranian term formerly used to describe Central Asians especially Iranians, later it was adopted to Turkic groups too and today it is almost exclusively used to describe Turkics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demhat View Post
    And there is also a simple Reason for this. Turan is a Iranian term formerly used to describe Central Asians especially Iranians, later it was adopted to Turkic groups.
    Nah, it described rival of Iran, which were Turkic people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yabgu View Post
    There is no ethnicity called "Anatolian", and no such thing as "Anatolian Greek genes" or "Armenoid genes".. It is a political rhetoric to cause identity erosion.. Eastern Huns are considered to be the ancestors of modern day Turks and they were a hybrid of Asiatic and Caucasian, but more dominantly Caucasian.. Hun was not an ethnicity itself, but a large tribal confederative structure.. That is why Turks already had a rich genetic pool before the full conquest of Anatolia region..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan View Post
    Nah, it described rival of Iran, which were Turkic people.
    Iran as ethnonym for the Iranian empire (Achaemenid). Rivalry between Iranics is nothing new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demhat View Post
    Iran as ethnonym for the Iranian empire (Achaemenid). Rivalry between Iranics is nothing new.
    http://books.google.com.tr/books?id=...asiyab&f=false
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    There is no ethnicity called "Anatolian", and no such thing as "Anatolian Greek genes" or "Armenoid genes".. It is a political rhetoric to cause identity erosion.. Eastern Huns are considered to be the ancestors of modern day Turks and they were a hybrid of Asiatic and Caucasian, but more dominantly Caucasian.. Hun was not an ethnicity itself, but a large tribal confederative structure.. That is why Turks already had a rich genetic pool before the full conquest of Anatolia region..

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    I'm not sure but he seems like he has Crimean roots, i've seen a lot of Crimean Tatars who look exactly like him, even in my maternal side. But i'm not sure ofc.

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    That actor(Engin) resembles me Adnan Oktar!
    Quote Originally Posted by Yabgu View Post
    There is no ethnicity called "Anatolian", and no such thing as "Anatolian Greek genes" or "Armenoid genes".. It is a political rhetoric to cause identity erosion.. Eastern Huns are considered to be the ancestors of modern day Turks and they were a hybrid of Asiatic and Caucasian, but more dominantly Caucasian.. Hun was not an ethnicity itself, but a large tribal confederative structure.. That is why Turks already had a rich genetic pool before the full conquest of Anatolia region..

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    Sergen Yalçın, not sure if he has Turanid influence but there is a resemblance between him and a Kyrgyz guy from Ulupamir/Van.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pecheneg View Post
    Sergen Yalçın, not sure if he has Turanid influence but there is a resemblance between him and a Kyrgyz guy from Ulupamir/Van.

    Resemblence is completely given, but I think that Yalcin is a Med-Turanid mix. The Kyrgyz man became very famous around facebook


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak_Håkan View Post
    Tadjiks are, according to my knowledge based on western schoolars, non-turkic Turanids. In a few days I will post some example pictures concerning this topic to distinguish between Cromagnoid-C, Cromagnoid-C+Turanid and Pamiro-Turanid.
    Pamiro-Turanid man from Murghab, Tadjikistan:

    But I don't know wheather he is an ethnic Kyrgyz oder Tadjik.

    Kyrgyz guy of Cromagnoid-C+Turanid and Pamiro-Turanid type, from Rangkul, near the border of China in the middle of the Pamir:


    Pamirid/Cromagnoid-C+Turanid Kyrgyz Girl from North Tadjikistan, near to the Kyrgyz borders:


    Pamiro-Turanid/Cromagnoid-C+Turanid Kyrygz Girl from Jirgitol, North Tadjikistan, near to the Kyrgyz borders:


    "Another part of the Sogdians and Bactrians partially assimilated with the Türkic-lingual tribes, and during a period of Islamization under a strong influence of the Persian language during the Samanid period formed Iranian-lingual Tadjik people."

    http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...ogenesisEn.htm

    "High frequencies of R1a1a (R-M17 or R-M198; 50 to 70%) are found among the Ishkashimis, Khujand Tajiks, Panjakent Tajiks, Turkic-speakingKyrgyzs, and in several peoples of Russia's Altai Republic,[18][32][33] but frequencies are relatively lower (16 to 25%) among the Dushanbe Tajiks,Samarkand Tajiks, Yaghnobis and Shughnis."

    "The Tajik people, previously called Sarts, are a blend of the indigenous Sogdians, Persian aristocracy that conquered Sogd and created a Central Asian farming state, and Türkic extracts that went for lucrative Silk Road trade; culturally and physically Tajiks are undistinguishable from their Türkic neighbors, but they are Turkic/Tajik bilingual, their Sogdian language was replaced by a version of Farsi. During the 1st and 2nd mill. AD, the Tajik's ancestors were sedentary people living in trading factories and agricultural villages, and moved from one factoria to another on trading business, the concept of nomadic migration does not apply to them; the Türkic people were horse nomadic herdsmen involved in migrations, conquests, and collection of tributes, they lived on the road in portable yurts. The annals pointedly record that the Sogdians were no warriors, and that the Türkic were renown warriors)." (Centre for the Study of the Civilizations of Central Asia (Pakistan), Journal of Central Asia , Band 18, Quaid-i-Azam University, 1995, p.35)

    At the start of the First World War Tajik leaders had supported the pan-Turkic movement, which aspired to unite the countries of the east under Turkic power and end European domination.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sart
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