Do you consider Bulgarians Slavic?

[Psycho]

West Asian input in Bulgarians is partly from Armenians which settled to Bulgaria in the middle age https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arme...lgaria#History

Armenians (modern) have lot of Turkic Oghuz admixure though

[Psycho]

Mile Kitić looks Turkic?

Mile from 1980s https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13alhv

Mile from 2000s.

Yes
Since he is from northern Bosnia, most likely his Turanid is from Avars or Hunnic

[Live The Magic]

Fair enough, still Hittites, Lydians, Phrygians and other native Anatolians were mostly Med and had 60-70% ANF so they were not really different from Paleo-Balkanites (other than having strong CHG and Iranian influence and very weak Yamnaya) + mixed with Greeks and Romans

Only Hurro-Urtartians (proto-Armenians) aka natives of Armenian highlands were Armenoids and typical west Asians
So having Anatolian admixure wouldn't make as alien compared to other Slavs as we are

In a way you are right. Northern (Slavic) component is the same one across all South Slavs, but Roman component differs.
Macedonians, Serbs, Bosniaks - they all have Paeonian/Illyrian/Classical Greek combination as their main paleo-Balkan component. Only Macedonians from eastern parts and from Greece have higher Anatolian component like you.

[Psycho]

In a way you are right. Northern (Slavic) component is the same one across all South Slavs, but Roman component differs.
Macedonians, Serbs, Bosniaks - they all have Paeonian/Illyrian/Classical Greek combination as their main paleo-Balkan component. Only Macedonians from eastern parts and from Greece have higher Anatolian component like you.

Macedonians and southern Serbs are not different from us (other than less Turkic)
Anatolians were not so different from Paleo-Balkanics (other than Hurro-Urartians who are not even natives of Anatolia, but of Armenian highlands)

[Live The Magic]

Macedonians and southern Serbs are not different from us (other than less Turkic)
Anatolians were not so different from Paleo-Balkanics (other than Hurro-Urartians who are not even natives of Anatolia, but of Armenian highlands)

Main difference is Macedonians have more Western Mediterranean and North Atlantic, while you got Eastern Mediterranean and Baltic. That translates to more Illyrian & Classical Greek ancestry for them (or something related to Celts or Romans, but I doubt they had presence in North Macedonia), while for you it translates into Anatolian & generally more Slavic

See this old thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...kits-28/page63

[Psycho]

Main difference is Macedonians have more Western Mediterranean and North Atlantic, while you got Eastern Mediterranean and Baltic. That translates to more Illyrian & Classical Greek ancestry for them (or something related to Celts or Romans, but I doubt they had presence in North Macedonia), while for you it translates into Anatolian & generally more Slavic

See this old thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...kits-28/page63

This one looks like wet dream of "cheda na Alexandar"
And there is no way we have no Turkic at all, have you seen my friend from Sofia or his brother?
Those guys look Turanid af

[Live The Magic]

This one looks like wet dream of "cheda na Alexandar"
And there is no way we have no Turkic at all, have you seen my friend from Sofia or his brother?
Those guys look Turanid af

GED Match kit?

[Psycho]

GED Match kit?

Mhm
Also Macedonians are not close with Albanians, since Albanians are from India

[oszkar07]

Armenians (modern) have lot of Turkic Oghuz admixure though

Not true.

Armenians and many Turks from Turkey have some Anatolian admixture, relating to old native Anatolian populations
and this is why there can some clustering between Armenians and Turks from Turkey
but not because of any central Asian Turkic component.

Armenians dont typically have significant Turkic as in central Asian or Mongolic admixture.

Armenians do have some significant caucasian admixture... (similiar to Laz and Georgians and Abkhazians).


My Wife is Armenian, here are some K13 Calc Results.
Her results are pretty consistant with average Armenian results as she is pure Armenian.


Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 154.5556% / 1.54555601
46.0 Laz
21.4 Talysh
17.6 Lebanese_Druze
7.6 Assyrian_North
6.2 Greek_Pontus
1.2 Latvian


Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 169.4187% / 1.69418738 | R4P
31.6 Laz
28.4 Talysh
23.8 Greek_Pontus
16.2 Lebanese_Druze


Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 179.2292% / 1.79229218 | R3P
51.0 Laz
25.8 Talysh
23.2 Lebanese_Druze

Laz are a south caucasus people related to Georgians.
Talysh are a minority Iranian people mostly living in Azerbaijan.

Eurogenes K13 Original

Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 218.1562% / 2.18156164
34.0 Assyrian
26.0 Armenian
25.8 Abhkasian (northwest Caucasian ethnic group)
12.8 Lebanese_Druze
1.4 Belorussian

Distance to: OszkarArmenianWife
3.71012129 Armenian
4.82037343 Georgian_Jewish
8.11696988 Assyrian
9.81293534 Kurdish
11.31354498 Azeri
12.09802050 Turkish
12.50806940 Kurdish_Jewish
12.54907566 Iranian
12.88351660 Iranian_Jewish
17.71342429 Lebanese_Muslim
19.76152828 Georgian
19.94368822 Syrian
20.87259687 Abhkasian
21.38249985 Kumyk
21.38290205 Cyprian
22.47726184 Lebanese_Druze
23.23760745 Adygei
23.30967825 Lebanese_Christian
24.55781138 Jordanian
24.89570646 Balkar
24.95383938 Turkmen
25.12634872 Samaritan
25.69035227 Ossetian
26.23615444 North_Ossetian
26.72565995 Kabardin
26.75946188 Palestinian
28.71494036 Lezgin
28.80931099 Chechen
30.06435930 South_Italian
30.31612277 Tunisian_Jewish
30.34179790 Sephardic_Jewish
30.42593137 Bedouin
30.43616270 Central_Greek
30.97344185 Libyan_Jewish
31.09090542 East_Sicilian
31.86947442 Tabassaran
32.33225789 Algerian_Jewish
32.42864783 Italian_Jewish
32.47600653 Ashkenazi
33.37821595 Italian_Abruzzo
34.58173506 Nogay
35.59077128 Afghan_Tadjik
36.14312798 West_Sicilian
36.46464726 Greek_Thessaly
36.84134362 Egyptian
37.08896467 Tadjik
38.83730294 Makrani
39.40827959 Afghan_Pashtun
42.20153433 Bulgarian
42.50241405 Saudi

[Psycho]

Not true.

Armenians and many Turks from Turkey have some Anatolian admixture, relating to old native Anatolian populations
and this is why there can some clustering between Armenians and Turks from Turkey
but not because of any central Asian Turkic component.

Armenians dont typically have significant Turkic as in central Asian or Mongolic admixture.

Armenians do have some significant caucasian admixture... (similiar to Laz and Georgians and Abkhazians).


My Wife is Armenian, here are some K13 Calc Results.
Her results are pretty consistant with average Armenian results as she is pure Armenian.


Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 154.5556% / 1.54555601
46.0 Laz
21.4 Talysh
17.6 Lebanese_Druze
7.6 Assyrian_North
6.2 Greek_Pontus
1.2 Latvian


Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 169.4187% / 1.69418738 | R4P
31.6 Laz
28.4 Talysh
23.8 Greek_Pontus
16.2 Lebanese_Druze


Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 179.2292% / 1.79229218 | R3P
51.0 Laz
25.8 Talysh
23.2 Lebanese_Druze

Laz are a south caucasus people related to Georgians.
Talysh are a minority Iranian people mostly living in Azerbaijan.

Eurogenes K13 Original

Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 218.1562% / 2.18156164
34.0 Assyrian
26.0 Armenian
25.8 Abhkasian (northwest Caucasian ethnic group)
12.8 Lebanese_Druze
1.4 Belorussian

Distance to: OszkarArmenianWife
3.71012129 Armenian
4.82037343 Georgian_Jewish
8.11696988 Assyrian
9.81293534 Kurdish
11.31354498 Azeri
12.09802050 Turkish
12.50806940 Kurdish_Jewish
12.54907566 Iranian
12.88351660 Iranian_Jewish
17.71342429 Lebanese_Muslim
19.76152828 Georgian
19.94368822 Syrian
20.87259687 Abhkasian
21.38249985 Kumyk
21.38290205 Cyprian
22.47726184 Lebanese_Druze
23.23760745 Adygei
23.30967825 Lebanese_Christian
24.55781138 Jordanian
24.89570646 Balkar
24.95383938 Turkmen
25.12634872 Samaritan
25.69035227 Ossetian
26.23615444 North_Ossetian
26.72565995 Kabardin
26.75946188 Palestinian
28.71494036 Lezgin
28.80931099 Chechen
30.06435930 South_Italian
30.31612277 Tunisian_Jewish
30.34179790 Sephardic_Jewish
30.42593137 Bedouin
30.43616270 Central_Greek
30.97344185 Libyan_Jewish
31.09090542 East_Sicilian
31.86947442 Tabassaran
32.33225789 Algerian_Jewish
32.42864783 Italian_Jewish
32.47600653 Ashkenazi
33.37821595 Italian_Abruzzo
34.58173506 Nogay
35.59077128 Afghan_Tadjik
36.14312798 West_Sicilian
36.46464726 Greek_Thessaly
36.84134362 Egyptian
37.08896467 Tadjik
38.83730294 Makrani
39.40827959 Afghan_Pashtun
42.20153433 Bulgarian
42.50241405 Saudi

They have ancestry not from Anatolians, but from Hurro-Urartians, Armenoid phenotype most likely originated among those people