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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    True! Btw. it's somewhat bigger than today's Burgenland and contains also Preßburg / Bratislava!
    These austrian claims would mean war with Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Austrian politicians were not that dumb to do that. The social democrats followed the entente orders as well, Austria was demilitarised, so Wien had no any significant military force to do anything. On the other side Hungary had 1 million troops, later it became smaller because slovak, romanian, serbian soldiers deserted, but the Hungarian Royal Army still was the second strongest military force in the region after Romania.

    The austrian claims in West Hungary caused big surprise in Budapest. The hungarian society saw it as a huge betrayal. At this time the hungarian government was fully aware the entente plans and new Trianon borders so everyone wanted to continue the war and the moral of hungarian troops was very high to defend Hungary. But the situation with Austria was difficult. Basically the austrian and hungarian government did not want hostility with each other, both country was surrounded by enemies. Wien had no army and Hungary had enough problem with romanians and czechoslovaks. So the local hungarian citizens created a small irregular army and they defeated the small numbered austrian police forces.

    For hungarian conservatives, the entente plans and the dethronement of Habsburgs was of course unacceptable. There were plans to invade Austria to restore the Habsburgs and to remove the social democrats. They made contact with the bavarian right winger troops too who also disliked the leftist wiener government. The problem was the royalist hungarian conservatives were not so popular among hungarians, their leader István Tisza was the most hated person in Hungary, even nationalists hated him as hell, so the political influence of hungarian royalists was very limited.

    The leftist social democrat leader Mihály Károlyi realized that his party is not able to defend Hungary from the invaders, and he gived the power to the communists who were the only real choice at this time. The hungarian nationalists did not have any allies unlike communists who had very good relations in Moscow. The new communist leader Béla Kun sent a letter to Lenin asking for help, the russian answer was very positive: Hold on, we are comming. The plan of communists was pretty similar to nationalist plans, defending the historical borders, except they did not want hungarian oriented state but they were internationalists. Good example when the hungarian Red Army defeated the czechoslovaks and after that they created the Slovak Soviet Republic it caused huge disappointing among hungarian troops, because they have fought for revisionist reasons and not for a communist Slovakia. Béla Kun also wanted to invade Austria along with russians, but the russians were stopped by poles and white forces so they never reached the Carpathian Basin.

    When Horthy took the power, he wanted good relationship with Austria because Hungary did not had any allies in the region. Austrians invaded only a very small part of Hungary and Burgenland was populated by majority germans, on the other side austrians did not opress the hungarian minority, so this "Burgenland question" disappeared in the hungarian society, they focused to Transylvania mostly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    What do austrian nationalists want more? Restore the Habsburg Empire or joining to Germany?
    Perhaps restoring Austro-Hungary... By the way, do you remember/recognize me on my alt? Not be self aggrandizing, just curious.

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    ^^^restoring Austro-Hungary would be quite something for Magyar Germanic mixes

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    Quote Originally Posted by fyodorov View Post
    Perhaps restoring Austro-Hungary... By the way, do you remember/recognize me on my alt? Not be self aggrandizing, just curious.
    Hy Ugo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego Garcia View Post
    Südtyrol ist aber doch Österreich!
    It's heavily influenced by Italians. Vielleicht nicht!
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    Some are only 1/16 though, and some are really zero, and i dont think they look atypically influenced by romani compared to serbian standards They do not look like you blonde blue eyed etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    (Sure. )

    We will have a use for this later, once the mainstream leads us in a meaningful direction.
    I won't be of any use for you, that for sure.

    Not favouring NS does not make anyone mainstream. What a zebra thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Hy Ugo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Some are only 1/16 though, and some are really zero, and i dont think they look atypically influenced by romani compared to serbian standards They do not look like you blonde blue eyed etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Hy Ugo
    My true identity is now not mysterious to you anymore. I have changed a lot since I first joined here, and yeah there were ughbetter left unsaid posts on my end. Care to classify me now and classify an American spiritual teacher I created a thread about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Some are only 1/16 though, and some are really zero, and i dont think they look atypically influenced by romani compared to serbian standards They do not look like you blonde blue eyed etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    These austrian claims would mean war with Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Austrian politicians were not that dumb to do that. The social democrats followed the entente orders as well, Austria was demilitarised, so Wien had no any significant military force to do anything. On the other side Hungary had 1 million troops, later it became smaller because slovak, romanian, serbian soldiers deserted, but the Hungarian Royal Army still was the second strongest military force in the region after Romania.

    The austrian claims in West Hungary caused big surprise in Budapest. The hungarian society saw it as a huge betrayal. At this time the hungarian government was fully aware the entente plans and new Trianon borders so everyone wanted to continue the war and the moral of hungarian troops was very high to defend Hungary. But the situation with Austria was difficult. Basically the austrian and hungarian government did not want hostility with each other, both country was surrounded by enemies. Wien had no army and Hungary had enough problem with romanians and czechoslovaks. So the local hungarian citizens created a small irregular army and they defeated the small numbered austrian police forces.

    For hungarian conservatives, the entente plans and the dethronement of Habsburgs was of course unacceptable. There were plans to invade Austria to restore the Habsburgs and to remove the social democrats. They made contact with the bavarian right winger troops too who also disliked the leftist wiener government. The problem was the royalist hungarian conservatives were not so popular among hungarians, their leader István Tisza was the most hated person in Hungary, even nationalists hated him as hell, so the political influence of hungarian royalists was very limited.

    The leftist social democrat leader Mihály Károlyi realized that his party is not able to defend Hungary from the invaders, and he gived the power to the communists who were the only real choice at this time. The hungarian nationalists did not have any allies unlike communists who had very good relations in Moscow. The new communist leader Béla Kun sent a letter to Lenin asking for help, the russian answer was very positive: Hold on, we are comming. The plan of communists was pretty similar to nationalist plans, defending the historical borders, except they did not want hungarian oriented state but they were internationalists. Good example when the hungarian Red Army defeated the czechoslovaks and after that they created the Slovak Soviet Republic it caused huge disappointing among hungarian troops, because they have fought for revisionist reasons and not for a communist Slovakia. Béla Kun also wanted to invade Austria along with russians, but the russians were stopped by poles and white forces so they never reached the Carpathian Basin.

    When Horthy took the power, he wanted good relationship with Austria because Hungary did not had any allies in the region. Austrians invaded only a very small part of Hungary and Burgenland was populated by majority germans, on the other side austrians did not opress the hungarian minority, so this "Burgenland question" disappeared in the hungarian society, they focused to Transylvania mostly.
    I wonder why Hungary not did with force keep the Hungarian settled part of South Slovakia. It would both have been in line with the new principles of self-determination of peoples and been pretty remote for any Entente troops to reach. Who should realistically have hindered them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by #Oda# View Post
    I won't be of any use for you, that for sure.
    (...)
    Every thinking German will be useful. Maybe you can contribute within the frame that is possible to you. It’s no shame to review, re-assess and re-think what’s going on and come to the conclusion that it can not just continue. You already stated that there could be made some corrections in the mass immigration policy if I got you right. Even the originally unpolitical Heinz-Rudolf Kunze woke up in the context of mass immigration and made this very nice song and is since then pretty critical to officially imposed trends (like genderism etc.):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBNwJKr0GOA

    (I refrain from disproving his ridiculous later explanation in order to escape being (socially and economically) burnt as a witch that he referred to the NSU (Nationalsozialistischer Untergrund) murders by elaborating numerous text passages that are plainly incompatible with that interpretation.)

    There is no agenda by the mainstream for a population replacement but the decades long political neglection (for known reasons) of caring for the composition of the residence population would now lead to a population replacement. The propaganda by the establishment that all is fine has the sole purpose to hide these immense wrong doings and prevent the establishment from losing all reputation and eventually becoming deducted from power in a political-cultural earthquake.

    What the establishment and the steered by it mainstream does is comparable to if Francesco Schettino would have explained that it was intended to sink the Costa Concordia at Giglio and why that is good.
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