Why do so many in this forum put so much more emphasis on race than culture or language?

[Chaos One]

1) Because this is a racialist forum. It's like joining a Pizza forum and ask why members don't like Sushi.

That's it. Basically speaking, if you want to enter the fray here, the rules are set for a long time and trying to go against the tide is basically losing your time.

The focus here is racialism (or racism). There're some spots which you can avoid this kind of discussion if you want, but after you just "join" the whole group of users, good luck trying to change the song. And for real, if people are here to discuss this, that it is and life goes on.

[Smeagol]

Race precipitates culture

Yup. A nation of Hottentots couldn't keep up European civilization no matter if they were all born and raised there.

[alnortedelsur]

Not that I usually like to personalise things; nevertheless, let us not forget that you and I both have some non-white admixture, and as we know the correlation between genotype and phenotype can be very fuzzy. Therefore, if either one of us were three shades darker in skintone and/or with Amerindian eyes and cheekbones, would that give others the 'right' to hate and fear us?

That is not our case because I'm well above 80% Euro and actually pretty close to 90% Euro, and your case (even though you haven't been tested) must be very similar to mine. Too little non-Euro admixture as for looking "obviously mixed" or anything other than pretty much plain European.

And you should stop reducing to be opposed to multi-racial/multi-culturalism as something evil, and portraying people who are against it, and who are on behalf of more homogeneous societeis, because they just want to preserve their own race and culture, as if they were haters, Nazi-like or ku klux klan like people. Things aren't that black or white as you portray them to be.

[Lemminkäinen]

As I wrote here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...language/page3
"I just find the dissonance in values and priorities that many forum users have risible (not saying you specifically). They complain if their neighbourhood or city changes from 99% White to 93% White, but seem (at least by comparison) quite relaxed at seeing their native language disappear or being subsumed." Let us discuss.

You are right. People losing own language lose also culture. It has happened in many places, but people don't realize it because what is lost is not visible. All European cultures evolved from linguistic identity.

[Occiput in Starlight]

You just defined postmodernity very well. A Neo-Pagan guy who identifies with his haplogroup and autosomal results in a crap genetic test is as much subjugated by the postmodern ideology as a non-binary guy who waves a LGBT flag on the street. Hstory repeats ifself, first as tragedy, second as a farce.

Exactly, Sir.

[Tooting Carmen]

That is not our case because I'm well above 80% Euro and actually pretty close to 90% Euro, and your case (even though you haven't been tested) must be very similar to mine. Too little non-Euro admixture as for looking "obviously mixed" or anything other than pretty much plain European.

Perhaps so, but that still misses my main point that people shouldn't all of a sudden judge us and treat us badly if we by genetic happenstance looked a lot darker and less Euro than is actually the case.

And you should stop reducing to be opposed to multi-racial/multi-culturalism as something evil, and portraying people who are against it, and who are on behalf of more homogeneous societeis, because they just want to preserve their own race and culture, as if they were haters, Nazi-like or ku klux klan like people. Things aren't that black or white as you portray them to be.

See what I wrote to B01AB20. I generally agree that more homogeneous societies tend to be more peaceful and cohesive than more diverse ones, but the case is far from clear cut and there are many potential causes of conflict and division besides just race and ethnicity. After all, as I said Northern Irish Catholics and Protestants look pretty much identical, and NI is probably the whitest part of the UK, yet even today there are still "peace walls" dividing the two communities. And the one who thinks of things in terms of Black and White if anything is you (quite literally, in fact): you have a hatred (or at least severe dislike) of Blacks that goes beyond even the now-banned CV. (CV was a more generalised bigot, but even he didn't fixate on Blacks to anything like the same extent you do). Lastly, two of the three countries you have lived in have been multiracial since their inception, and yet one of them is the (a?) global superpower and the other one prior to the 1990's was considered a (relative) success story for Latin America.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yup. A nation of Hottentots couldn't keep up European civilization no matter if they were all born and raised there.

As if Finland and Albania were just as wealthy, developed and peaceful as each other...

[renaissance12]

I'm no a big fan of Scandinavia (only from a cultural point of view .. 5 of my best sport men all time are from Norway -Karsten Warholm -Erling Braut Haaland - and Sweden - Stefan Holm- Borg -Stenmark ...) but I'm a little sorry that in the next 100 years it will no longer be possible - in Italy- , to recognize whether a group of tourists comes from Scandinavia or from France or Spain.. and in 200 years it will no longer be possible to recognize whether the group of tourists comes from Scandinavia or from Egypt.. All the world will turn brown, a mix of Caucasian Chinese Indian and Negroes..and this change will be much bigger in Scandinavia.

30-40 years ago in Vicenza it was possible to recognize a group of american soldiers ( 35-40 % of them looked nordic ) .. Today ? No.

[catgeorge]

In my first year at Uni I dated a sweet smart honey Irish babe.
But she couldn't pronounce Greek food and that's a deal breaker.

I don't think I could have ever married a non Greek maybe Italian if I met the right one. But thats all history now.

[Grace O'Malley]

Perhaps so, but that still misses my main point that people shouldn't all of a sudden judge us and treat us badly if we by genetic happenstance looked a lot darker and less Euro than is actually the case.



See what I wrote to B01AB20. I generally agree that more homogeneous societies tend to be more peaceful and cohesive than more diverse ones, but the case is far from clear cut and there are many potential causes of conflict and division besides just race and ethnicity. After all, as I said Northern Irish Catholics and Protestants look pretty much identical, and NI is probably the whitest part of the UK, yet even today there are still "peace walls" dividing the two communities. And the one who thinks of things in terms of Black and White if anything is you (quite literally, in fact): you have a hatred (or at least severe dislike) of Blacks that goes beyond even the now-banned CV. (CV was a more generalised bigot, but even he didn't fixate on Blacks to anything like the same extent you do). Lastly, two of the three countries you have lived in have been multiracial since their inception, and yet one of them is the (a?) global superpower and the other one prior to the 1990's was considered a (relative) success story for Latin America.

NI is an unusual situation and was due to colonialism where Scots and some English were put into Northern Ireland to change the dynamics and create a loyal population for the British at the expense of the native Irish population also due to the long term discrimination of Catholics. So it's not correct to use that example as there are political and historical reasons why those populations were antagonistic.