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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny View Post
    Some religions are "national" (as the reformed Dutch churches), some are "universal" (as in Islam and Roman Catholicism); It seems clear that a self-reinforcing national-religion/church is better for group cohesion than a universal religion.
    You mean like the various Prot churches who will recruit new sheep from Africa in order to boost their ranks?

    In the absence of actual religions, various imposter religions spring up, humanism, marxism, hedonism, self-worship, etc. and eventually nihilism.
    As Russian Philosopher would say, nihilism is only a gateway to a Dionysian life-affirming way of life. Much unlike the Slave Morality of Christianity. Being a servant to a celestial Jew just doesn't cut it. :

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordoftheVistula View Post
    It's not necessary, but it can be a help, especially when trying to bring those of lower intellect in line
    In a nutshell...

    It's still a fool's errand IMO.

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    It is. Christianity is now rooted in the folk spirit of the European peoples, more than a thousand years can't be undone, and shouldn't be.

    However, just like in politics, a great reformation is much needed in the ranks of the European churches, much decadent, liberal, and I dare say satanic poison has found its way in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow Cross View Post
    It is. Christianity is now rooted in the folk spirit of the European peoples, more than a thousand years can't be undone, and shouldn't be.
    As will Islam in a few decades or centuries.

    The solution to Europe's problems is not to pray more to Semitic deities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo View Post
    As will Islam in a few decades or centuries.

    The solution to Europe's problems is not to pray more to Semitic deities.
    We'll see about that.

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    It is enthusiasm that essential for any religion or ideology. To me whatever could encourage and inspirite for action is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo View Post
    As Russian Philosopher would say, nihilism is only a gateway to a Dionysian life-affirming way of life. Much unlike the Slave Morality of Christianity. Being a servant to a celestial Jew just doesn't cut it. :
    Right!

    You're the only person who understand me without long, tedious explaination's. up

    ...But we should (or have to) treat Christianity softly and with patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo View Post
    The solution to Europe's problems is not to pray more to ... deities.
    One thing that is surely not the solution, is to become hardline God-hating nihilist-atheists who believe in NOTHING but stone and bone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny View Post
    One thing that is surely not the solution, is to become hardline God-hating nihilist-atheists who believe in NOTHING but stone and bone.
    I don't hate YHWH, I don't believe in him/her.

    Besides, I already explained that nihilism is necessarily only a transitional stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny View Post
    One thing that is surely not the solution, is to become hardline God-hating nihilist-atheists who believe in NOTHING but stone and bone.
    Sticks and stones will break their bones but holy words will never hurt them

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