What's up with Anthrogenica? (16th of July 2022)

[Renekton]

Miss the site I usually posted there...


Let's hope they will fix it

[Guti]

could you show those samples

The paper is not published yet, but expect something like this with some extra twist, hehe:
What we know from previous papers, according to David Reich, Steppe Maykop was ancestral to and became at one point Yamnaya itself. And we have actual data from previous papers that show that there was a migration from the south into Maykop Horizon.

Also, watch from min 22:10 what he has to say about Sintashta and Andronovo. According to him Sintasthta had some EEF ancestry that he didn't find in India. He is actually ruling out that there was a direct Sintashta migration into India, because he couldn't find EEF ancestry in India.

[Melonman]

The paper is not published yet, but expect something like this with some extra twist, hehe:
What we know from previous papers, according to David Reich, Steppe Maykop was ancestral to and became at one point Yamnaya itself. And we have actual data from previous papers that show that there was a migration from the south into Maykop Horizon.

Also, watch from min 22:10 what he has to say about Sintashta and Andronovo. According to him Sintasthta had some EEF ancestry that he didn't find in India. He is actually ruling out that there was a direct Sintashta migration into India, because he couldn't find EEF ancestry in India.

im pretty sure there were no direct sintashta migration towards india. their descendants, children of both central asian farmers, BMAC, and steppe nomads, went into india

i dont believe in out-of india bs

[Guti]

im pretty sure there were no direct sintashta migration towards india. their descendants, children of both central asian farmers, BMAC, and steppe nomads, went into india

i dont believe in out-of india bs

Nobody is talking here about OOI theory.

Sintashta was R1a-Z93 < R-Z2124.
Indian R1a-Z93 belongs to a different branch.

[Melonman]

Nobody is talking here about OOI theory.

Sintashta was R1a-Z93 < R-Z2124.
Indian R1a-Z93 belongs to a different branch.

ah, ok, i didnt see the ''ruled out'', just thought it said ''ruled that there was direct migration''

yeah, thats definetly true.

[NSXD60]

Bullshit theory that Aryans had mixed with BMAC natives before entering India is disproved by the considerable percentage of R1a there today which would be negligible if they no longer looked predominately PIE upon entrance.

[Kaazi]

The paper is not published yet, but expect something like this with some extra twist, hehe:
What we know from previous papers, according to David Reich, Steppe Maykop was ancestral to and became at one point Yamnaya itself. And we have actual data from previous papers that show that there was a migration from the south into Maykop Horizon.

Also, watch from min 22:10 what he has to say about Sintashta and Andronovo. According to him Sintasthta had some EEF ancestry that he didn't find in India. He is actually ruling out that there was a direct Sintashta migration into India, because he couldn't find EEF ancestry in India.

Wtf. There's clear EEF admixture in South Asia. It doesn't necessarily have to be Sintashta but it must be other similar Steppe proxies from that periphery.

Nobody is talking here about OOI theory.

Sintashta was R1a-Z93 < R-Z2124.
Indian R1a-Z93 belongs to a different branch.

R-Z93>R-L657 There are some Z2124 Brahmins as well, so part of Vedic LBA.

I've made a "Indo-Aryan LBA ghost" extracted from Haryana Rors, UP Brahmins, Nepali Brahmins and a Bihari Brahmin in genoplot. You can check it out. Basically Steppe MLBA+ BMAC + Steppe EBA/WSHG. KGZ-BA (Aigyrzhal like) seems to have clear impact on Indo-Aryan LBA.

[Melonman]

Bullshit theory that Aryans had mixed with BMAC natives before entering India is disproved by the considerable percentage of R1a there today which would be negligible if they no longer looked predominately PIE upon entrance.

why is that bs

the steppe ancestry is male-mediated, not female
hence why the male paternal haplogroups

[Guti]

Bullshit theory that Aryans had mixed with BMAC natives before entering India is disproved by the considerable percentage of R1a there today which would be negligible if they no longer looked predominately PIE upon entrance.

There were not 'Aryans' in the Steppes at that time. Do you have any evidence what language those Sintashta people spoke, lol? Vedic/Hindu/Indo-Aryan people in Northern India had a lot BMAC ancestry in them.

[Guti]

There was a some type of migration from the Steppes into Northern India around 1500BC. It happened after the so called 'Sintashta culture' disappeared.
There was also some migration from BMAC into the 'Andronovo horizon'.

Furthermore, there is a big difference between Indo-Aryans and Aryans.

Indo-Aryans were Hindu or Vedic
Aryan people were 'Iranic'.

Also, real 'Aryans' who invaded Southcentral Asian regions came from 'Yaz'