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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I just found the Council of Autun. They look much less Germanic than those choirboys, quite Italian in fact: https://www.autun.com/votre-ville/vi...pe-municipale/
    Loads of foreign last names there in the council as it's usually the case (only half of the story as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Loads of foreign last names there in the council as it's usually the case (only half of the story as well)
    Granted, but even taking those ones out they still don't look like the same group as those choirboys.

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    My guess is 60% ethnic french, others are mena, black african, mixed or other european.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    From recent statistical publications something like 50M out of 68M.

    About 9-10M MENA, mostly NAs (8.6M of Muslims officially or 12.7%) + 3M Blacks + 3-4 Millions of Iberians & Italians (id say cose to equal amount each) + 1-2M everything else.
    According to this map there are over 1 million Poles in France (Francja):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    According to this map there are over 1 million Poles in France (Francja):

    Surely that includes people with whole or partial Polish ancestry, not just people actually born in Poland or even with four Polish grandparents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Pontic Greeks from Caucasus don't look like other Greeks, culturally and linguistically they're different, too (most of them speak Turkish). Plus another interesting thing is that non Pontic Greeks from other parts of USSR never had this massive tendency to leave to Greece after collapse of the USSR, playing the biggest Greeks of themselves (my friend lives in Cyprus and says that lots of Caucasian Pontic Greeks behave quite alien and play badasses and biggest Greeks of the country).

    As for me, my Greek ancestry by great grandmother is of mainland Greece refugees to Odessa region during Greek revolution in 19 century.
    First of all, no, they seriously do not speak Turkish, you confuse them with the Karamanlides deep into Anatolia. Pontic Greeks always spoke Greek, and they have a very ancient sounding dialect still in place.

    Culturally, yes, but every single part of Greece is culturally different than other parts of Greece. I mean, you really shouldn't be surprised given how far we have been spread out. And the geography of the ancestral metropolitan Greece always benefitted cultural separations between regions. But all these regions had the four basic common elements: common language, common religion, common customs and above all, common ancestry, as Herodotus had pointed out.

    Lastly: many Greeks who lived in the USSR migrated to here after the collapse of the USSR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Surely that includes people with whole or partial Polish ancestry, not just people actually born in Poland or even with four Polish grandparents?
    Probably it is as you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    According to this map there are over 1 million Poles in France (Francja):
    Poles, Germany and France is an interesting topic.

    If I state that it's predominantly the dislike for Germany and Germans that leads (and has lead in history) Poles to France (simplified), could you relate to that?
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    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Nobody knows, it´s something taboo. State secret.

    And... what is exactly being ethnically French?
    Might be hard to say in a number of fringe cases but I'd say the indigenous to that area inhabitants except for Flamands, Bretons, Germans, Basques and Corsicans.

    But regarding the to be assumed aim of the question it would maybe be more suitable to ask for the proportion of the people with indigenous to France ethnicities compared to the current resident population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    My guess is 60% ethnic french, others are mena, black african, mixed or other european.
    It's probably something like that.

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