Croatian man killed in Ireland "for speaking Croatian"

[Laredo]

It's all good. I just scroll past your comments when I detect "anal" or "sex" in your posts.

Personality I don't like to talk explicitly It just doesn't go with my vocabulary I think it's street talk behavior. But I already mentioned why.

When you have seen me saying filling anus with cum or talk like that? Probably never.

But it's all good I would be less active next week working on my business.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

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If you calmly review what I wrote you will notice that I repeatedly referred to a will for perfoming such a change as a requirement. You shoot on cardbord comrades (Pappkameraden) as is said in German.

I did misread this part of your post.

I can already tell you the people's will is not to have everyone speak Gaelic so they can interact with the local government. Why? Because most people can't speak Gaelic fluently anyway. It would be a minority trying to force everyone else to do as they like.

Why would anyone want to make what is already an annoying process even more difficult to the point they'd have to get a translator?

I'm just realizing now this conversation is absurd.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

This is exactly what will happen if in school is spoken Irish only. When the children tell what was in school and do quote what someone said they will often go on talking Irish with each other while they talk English with their parents.

They won't because the language in the household is English and so they will speak to each other in English there and with their friends. This is different than with immigrants who speak their parents' language at home but will speak with children in the host country's language outside the home.

You ignore what I stated. I spoke of phasing out the English speakers and letting them be replaced by Irish speaking coming generations.

It's not what you said initially. It's what you have said recently. And it won't work as I explained but you didn't understand.

I never said that any adult should be obligated to interact with authorities in Irish.

This is what you initially said:

"Hence English will have to be perspectively banned as an administrational language if there shall be a substantial result."

But younger people, that have been in Irish only speaking schools for abt. 10 years could be when there have emerged enough new Irish speaking officials in the authorities.

They may speak Gaelic but will not speak Gaelic with two older generations that aren't fluent in Gaelic but also not with each other because their social interactions will be that of the language they spoke at home and what they have always heard adults outside of school speak.

This is a major social experiment you would be attempting, and I don't see why the Irish or any nation would take this risk of muddling not only their education system with what would be a new language to these kids but also trying to create a rift between children and their families on how they communicate with each other.

That's no excuse for you ignoring what I state. Because that is not caused by any linguistic misunderstanding.

Your words:

"Hence English will have to be perspectively banned as an administrational language if there shall be a substantial result."

I clearly did not ignore what you said. If, of course, it's what the Irish want but what does that mean? They're not going to put themselves in that circumstance because it's not rational (as I explained). Needless to say, no one has suggested such a thing because it's not rational.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I was told by an knowledgeable Israeli Jew that it is essentially Hebrew. I can not assess it on my own. Of course, it's not one-to-one what was spoken 2000 years ago. But neither the need for such a re-vival nor if you can compare the situation with Ireland is my point. My point is simply that you can do it if you really want. A more comparable but also less successful thing is the introduction of Nynorsk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nynorsk in Norway. Just a minor proportion of the population was behind this idea. As long as you leave open the possibility to go on with the more easy thing (English in Ireland and Bokmål in Norway) such an undertaking will have no success. Hence English will have to be perspectively banned as an administrational language if there shall be a substantial result.

btw, how similar is Nynorsk to Danish? Is it dissimilar as English is to Gaelic?

I found this on Wikipedia:

Norwegians are educated in both Bokmål and Nynorsk. Each student gets assigned a native form based on which school they go to, whence the other form (known as Sidemål) will be a mandatory school subject from elementary school through high school.[13] For instance, a Norwegian whose main language form is Bokmål will study Nynorsk as a mandatory subject throughout both elementary and high school. A 2005 poll indicates that 86.3% use primarily Bokmål as their daily written language, 5.5% use both Bokmål and Nynorsk, and 7.5% use primarily Nynorsk.[citation needed] Thus, 13% are frequently writing Nynorsk, though the majority speak dialects that resemble Nynorsk more closely than Bokmål.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_language

The article is a mess and while half asleep I can't find much information on Bokmål and Nynorsk.

This is what chatgpt gives me:

Bokmål is more commonly used than Nynorsk in Norway. It is estimated that around 85-90% of the Norwegian population uses Bokmål as their written standard for everyday communication, particularly in urban areas and in the eastern part of the country, including Oslo. Nynorsk, on the other hand, is used by a minority of the population, accounting for approximately 10-15% of users, primarily in rural and western parts of Norway.

The preference for Bokmål over Nynorsk is largely influenced by historical, cultural, and demographic factors. Bokmål's origins in the Danish-influenced written language of Norway during the union with Denmark and its subsequent evolution into a more standardized form have contributed to its widespread use and acceptance. Additionally, factors such as urbanization, migration patterns, and educational policies have also played a role in shaping the dominance of Bokmål in written communication in Norway.

If the above is accurate then we can't say Nynorsk is a success.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

English taught as a second language in school? Which language do you think they will choose to speak with their parents at home with their predominately English-speaking parents? This is not like with immigrant children who have to adopt the host population's language while speaking their parents' language at home and with the next generation the children are less likely to speak their grandparents' language. This is the Irish themselves interacting with their parents and most likely everyone else in the English language. Will siblings speak Gaelic to each other and English to their parents?

More questions.

When these kids go to the grocery store they'll speak to the clerk in English and then turn to their friend and speak to them in Gaelic?

If the language they constantly hear from adults outside of school is English, why would they choose to speak Gaelic instead between themselves?

This is so absurd.

[Blondie]

That is really sad. I think your sister was wise to move somewhere more normal, even if it's not so "interesting".

She was not wise. My sister was lazy in the school, she did not want to learn, and had many conflict with my parents because of it. So after a while she moved to east Hungary. My sister was always obsessed with radicalism, nazism, her bf is a dumb skinhead, she always choosed the easier way and does not give a fuck about her family, so i must do everything. Her personal resentment was the reason when she left Budapest, not her "wisdom". I have no good opinion on her.

[Grace O'Malley]

I thought this was a very good discussion about the situation in Ireland. Interviewer is Swedish and Irish woman is half Pakistani. It's basically the Government at fault here. They let over 250,000 people come in last year in a population of 5M with a housing crisis. Absolutely mad. It's not really related to the murder of the Croatian man but does show how Ireland is being badly mismanaged and unless something changes the situation will only get worse.

[Carpatz]

Im university student, tons of female student are escorts/sex workers here.

It's on the rise everywhere in the West, including Russia/Eastern Europe and South America. Girls are opening Onlyfans accounts because it's so easy to do so, and because of the illusion of privacy (not being found out by family/friends). If they see some success, they will be open to other kinds of sex work, especially when their paypig tricks start offering them enormous amounts of money for meetups. The stigma for sex work is also dropping

[Feiichy]

She was not wise. My sister was lazy in the school, she did not want to learn, and had many conflict with my parents because of it. So after a while she moved to east Hungary. My sister was always obsessed with radicalism, nazism, her bf is a dumb skinhead, she always choosed the easier way and does not give a fuck about her family, so i must do everything. Her personal resentment was the reason when she left Budapest, not her "wisdom". I have no good opinion on her.

Getting out of Budapest is wise, no matter her as person.

City is depraved. And fck city where you can avoid all that only in millionare districts. Class division is crazy there, another thing to dislike.

[oszkar07]

Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
Im university student, tons of female student are escorts/sex workers here.

Nothing new, this has been the case in the western world for many decades.

So much for the femnazi false narrative that all sex workers are forced trafficked victims.

thousands in the west do this completly of their own choice, it is what it is.

(but if someone unwillingly gets found out as a working girl - the victim narrative is always an available prop to hide behind too)

There would be many Professional women today who are Lawyers, Doctors, Nurses - that possibly during their time in University for a time worked a side hustle job as sex worker. Happens quite a lot.
Good proportion of sex workers in Brothels between 18 to 30 can be University students.