A cesspool of hypocrisy

[Loki]

Anyone remember the "defund the police!!" time, when the police appeared utterly helpless to maintain law and order? Well, contrast that with today, when peaceful protest can get you manhandled and arrested, if you're supporting the "wrong" cause ...

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/11/u...nvs/index.html

[Tooting Carmen]

Aren't the BLM types usually very anti-Israel themselves? (Not entirely without reason either, I hasten to add). Still, point taken.

[Straightman]

Aren't the BLM types usually very anti-Israel themselves? (Not entirely without reason either, I hasten to add). Still, point taken.

Their reason is they class Jews as white and Palestinians as brown and thus as 'people of color'. If some whites use similar reasoning you call them racist and not that they have reason.

[Tooting Carmen]

Their reason is they class Jews as white and Palestinians as brown and thus as 'people of color'. If some whites use similar reasoning you call them racist and not that they have reason.

My views towards Israel have evolved over time (namely, they have become increasingly unfavourable), and I don't accept that criticising its unhinged behaviour is 'anti-Semitic'. But I am not overly fond of what I see of Arab and Palestinian culture either, and Hamas and their allies are indeed vicious fascists, and even the more 'moderate' sections of Arab and Palestinian societies are still pretty authoritarian. My stance towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can be roughly summed up by paraphrasing Kissinger: "it's a shame both sides cannot lose".

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

In the summer of 2020, the police stood and watched as Antifa and BLM rioted and burned down people's businesses and did nothing. If they did arrest anyone, they were out in 24 hours to do it all over again: a slap on the wrist.

Many of these universities receive money from Zionist donors (and many of these universities invest in Israeli companies) and so when university students and activists speak out against Israel, the attack dog in blue gets let loose.

This is a perfect example of what I always say: the main purpose of the police is to do the bidding of those who write their paychecks and will pay their pensions. If those people want to see your community burn so that the public blames Trump for the chaos and votes for Biden, then they'll let the community burn. If the Zionists who donate to universities and politicians want the police to smash anti-Israeli protesters, then that is what the police will do.

[Straightman]

My views towards Israel have evolved over time (namely, they have become increasingly unfavourable), and I don't accept that criticising its unhinged behaviour is 'anti-Semitic'. But I am not overly fond of what I see of Arab and Palestinian culture either, and Hamas and their allies are indeed vicious fascists, and even the more 'moderate' sections of Arab and Palestinian societies are still pretty authoritarian. My stance towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can be roughly summed up by paraphrasing Kissinger: "it's a shame both sides cannot lose".

That is all fine. Of course you can criticize Israel and not be anti-Semitic and I am not a big fan of either side too. My point was that these BLM types only care what they understand of this conflict, which is not much. These are people who think ancient Israelites and Jesus were blacks or who think all Jews are really phony Jews and white Europeans and Palestinians are brown 'brothers of color'. They are simpletons. They don't know European Jews have a lot of real Semitic blood, despite of how they look or that there are even lots of Mizrahi brownish Jews too, not that different genetically and physically from Palestinians. The BLM crowd are racist blacks who hate white people and also hate all Jews who they think are just white Europeans. I think you have to be naive to deny that.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

These kinds of protests are futile and have the opposite effect: those who see them from the outside end up drifting further and further away from their agenda.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

My views towards Israel have evolved over time (namely, they have become increasingly unfavourable), and I don't accept that criticising its unhinged behaviour is 'anti-Semitic'. But I am not overly fond of what I see of Arab and Palestinian culture either, and Hamas and their allies are indeed vicious fascists, and even the more 'moderate' sections of Arab and Palestinian societies are still pretty authoritarian. My stance towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can be roughly summed up by paraphrasing Kissinger: "it's a shame both sides cannot lose".

Which side is mass murdering children? And they do it because they understand if you kill someone's family the children will grow up to hate and fight you.

Would I be wrong to say that your main issue is how homosexuals are viewed and treated? Otherwise, I don't see how Israeli society is any less authoritarian than Palestinian society. If you want to buy property the local community can reject you because you're not the right kind of person. You can go to prison for rape even if sex was consensual if the 'victim' is Jewish and they claim they didn't know the person they had sex with was of a different ethnic group.

[Tooting Carmen]

That is all fine. Of course you can criticize Israel and not be anti-Semitic and I am not a big fan of either side too. My point was that these BLM types only care what they understand of this conflict, which is not much. These are people who think ancient Israelites and Jesus were blacks or who think all Jews are really phony Jews and white Europeans and Palestinians are brown 'brothers of color'. They are simpletons. They don't know European Jews have a lot of real Semitic blood, despite of how they look or that there are even lots of Mizrahi brownish Jews too, not that different genetically and physically from Palestinians. The BLM crowd are racist blacks who hate white people and also hate all Jews who they think are just white Europeans. I think you have to be naive to deny that.

BLM people indeed hold bigoted and questionable views a lot of the time, and when they talk about the "global Black family", it is just the obverse of the same racial mysticism that loads of White identitarians fall into as well, which disregards all the differences of language, culture, nationality, wealth, education, politics and so forth within each major racial grouping.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

These kinds of protests are futile and have the opposite effect: those who see them from the outside end up drifting further and further away from their agenda.

The whole point of these protests is to get universities to divest from Israeli companies, which is what some universities are now doing.

Trinity College Dublin agrees to divest from Israeli firms after student protest