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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho View Post
    Slovenes are the most Slavic Balkanites
    Slovenia is not in Balkan thus Slovenians are not Balkan people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho View Post
    As Serbian dude already said, Kumanovo is named after them
    My theory is that, before Serb migrations to FYROM, Kumanovo was mostly Turkic (Cuman and Bulgar)
    There are no burglars in Kumanovo

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    That does not make sense, since Scythians are proto-Turkics
    DNA evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Ancient and most of the modern Turkic people were/are mix of several different races, like most of the present day Latin Americans. Warrior stepe culture and cult of horses among Turkic people was Scythian heritage. Scythians were white people of north European type.
    The presence of numerous words for different horse types, their colors, ages, and genders points to a deep understanding and close relationship with horses. Terms like "at" (horse), "alaşa" (pack horse), "aygır" (stallion), "yunt" (non-specific horse), "yılkı" (a group of non domesticated horses, or non-domesticated horse), "kısrak" (mare), "yabu" (weak, and older horse), and "baytal" (a mare who hasn't foaled) indicate a focus on breeding, working with, and categorizing horses based on specific purposes. Which implies the domestication and use of horses happened organically within Turkic communities, not through adoption from nearby groups.

    It shows a picture of a culture deeply intertwined with horses, using them for transportation, warfare, and even shaping their social structures. Therefore, this tradition likely predates the Scythians, who are 'presumed to have spoken an Iranian language'.

    TL;DR: The distinct terminology for horses in Turkic languages shows a long and independent tradition of horse culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live The Magic View Post
    Slovenia is not in Balkan thus Slovenians are not Balkan people.



    There are no burglars in Kumanovo



    DNA evidence?
    1. Wrong
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    3. R1a-Z93

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho View Post
    As Serbian dude already said, Kumanovo is named after them
    My theory is that, before Serb migrations to FYROM, Kumanovo was mostly Turkic (Cuman and Bulgar)
    There is no Bulgarians and Cumans in Kumanovo. Today roughly in Kumanovo there is 58% Macedonians, 24% Albanians, 6% Serbs etc. In the past there was more Serbs there, but they moved to Serbia or they are macedonized. Here where i live (near Belgrade) i know for several Serbian families which originated from Kumanovo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho View Post
    1. Wrong
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    3. R1a-Z93
    You may believe you landed from Mars from what I care, but if even one of your own scholars, professor Stamov, claims that based on DNA evidence there almost no Turkic/Mongolic link in Bulgarians, why should we believe you:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZKc8aJnLYY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    There is no Bulgarians and Cumans in Kumanovo. Today roughly in Kumanovo there is 58% Macedonians, 24% Albanians, 6% Serbs etc. In the past there was more Serbs there, but they moved to Serbia or they are macedonized. Here where i live (near Belgrade) i know for several Serbian families which originated from Kumanovo.
    Btw, what is your opinion about south-eastern Serbians (Nish, Vranje, Leskovac, Zajechar, Prokuplje, Pirot...)
    Do you agree that they are Serbianized Bulgars by the Serbian nobility that ruled that region in the late Middle Ages)
    I know that Medvedja and Kurshumlija are completely populated by Serbian colonists from Montenegro though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live The Magic View Post
    You may believe you landed from Mars from what I care, but if even one of your own scholars, professor Stamov, claims that based on DNA evidence there almost no Turkic/Mongolic link in Bulgarians, why should we believe you:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZKc8aJnLYY
    Propaganda from anti-Turanists...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live The Magic View Post
    You may believe you landed from Mars from what I care, but if even one of your own scholars, professor Stamov, claims that based on DNA evidence there almost no Turkic/Mongolic link in Bulgarians, why should we believe you:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZKc8aJnLYY
    I have almost 0 Mongolic yet I am related to Bulgarians and am 100% turkic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    I have almost 0 Mongolic yet I am related to Bulgarians and am 100% turkic.
    Exactly, we are not related with Mongols and other East Asians (other than fact that Genghis Khan and nobility of ancient China was of Turkic ancestry)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    I have almost 0 Mongolic yet I am related to Bulgarians and am 100% turkic.
    I forgove you for uttering such a stupid statement because you probably don't understand enough of Bulgarian to check the video. There will be soon an scientific papers by Bulgarian academics, as professor Stamov said, that will show that basically only 1 in 100 sampled ancient Bulgarians had some Mongolic/Turkic DNA. Turks on the other hand have about 15-25% Turkic/Mongolic DNA on average (which should not be surprise). He said in his video that even Volga Bulgars had basically nothing with Turkic/Mongolic heritage and as he is concerned they were of European stock

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