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[Blondie]

https://www.amazon.de/Herzland-histo.../dp/3827500893

Heartland: A journey through Europe's historical center between France and Germany

"Weird and wonderful" (Sunday Times): An entertaining trip through Europe's heartland

Between Amsterdam and Zurich, along the Rhine, stretches Europe's heartland - coveted by emperors, fought over by armies, praised by poets. Anyone who wants to understand Europe must know the history of this region: the constant strife between large and small powers, the struggle between unification and defiant self-assertion. It is no coincidence that all of the EU's institutions are located in the region that reflects the fate of the continent like no other. Simon Winder tells the story of this heartland with wonderful ease and a highly idiosyncratic style, with all its peculiarities full of culture, beauty and horror: from Waterloo to Verdun, from Asterix to the Nibelungs, from Rubens to Karl Marx, from Gouda to Edelzwicker.

Why did you post this?

[#Oda#]

Why did you post this?

clarifying what's the heartland of Europe

(But I admit, I didnt read your post properly, so theres no real contradiction and it wasnt necessary to post it.
Cant do damage though.)

[Blondie]

clarifying what's the heartland of Europe

When im talking about "central" i included France & Germany too.
EU is a french-german-benelux oriented thing, of course the EU institutions are located there. Heartland of Europe is not there, but in Italy. Not just the Roman Empire and its heritage, but Italy was the richest and most advanced region in the european history, the Vatican was the capital of christianity, almost every cultural thing comes from Italy, for example renaissance and many other. When most of westernes lived in peaceful prosperity, at this time Poland & Hungary defended Europe from the mongol invasion and destruction. Later these small central folks like slovaks, czechs, austrians, hungarians, romanians, croats and serbs fought heroic battles against ottomans and they defended Europe from the islamization, of course with italian, spanish, polish help. Without these heroes you would wear hijab now and Europe would not exist in this traditional form. So pls dont educate me whats heartland (not Brussels).

[#Oda#]

When im talking about "central" i included France & Germany too.
EU is a french-german-benelux oriented thing, of course the EU institutions are located there. Heartland of Europe is not there, but in Italy. Not just the Roman Empire and its heritage, but Italy was the richest and most advanced region in the european history, the Vatican was the capital of christianity, almost every cultural thing comes from Italy, for example renaissance and many other. When most of westernes lived in peaceful prosperity, at this time Poland & Hungary defended Europe from the mongol invasion and destruction. Later these small central folks like slovaks, czechs, austrians, hungarians, romanians, croats and serbs fought heroic battles against ottomans and they defended Europe from the islamization, of course with italian, spanish, polish help. Without these heroes you would wear hijab now and Europe would not exist in this traditional form. So pls dont educate me whats heartland (not Brussels).

see my later addition (and it wasnt for you, but general)

[Marmara]

Hello to you too. The same old avatar, I see.

Ah yes, it's cool you remember.

[Feiichy]

Orban needs the EU money what he can steal haha

So why do you mind corruption in Ukraine?

[Feiichy]

Heartland of Europe, at least it's western Christian part indeed is between France and Germany. Strip streching from Flanders trough Alsace and Rhineland all the way south to northern Italy. It corresponds with old Lotharingia, or "middle Kingdom" of one of Charlemagne sons when Frankish Empire fell apart.

This is core of western Christian European civilisation. It's not Central Europe in later meaning obviously, but highest concentration of culture and progress was there.

[Blondie]

see my later addition (and it wasnt for you, but general)

I dont want to start such debates, but Europe owes much to these small nations in the Habsburg Empire, these are Europe's forgotten heroes. Heartland of Europe is North Italy and the Habsburg Empire in my opinion.

[Blondie]

Heartland of Europe, at least it's western Christian part indeed is between France and Germany. Strip streching from Flanders trough Alsace and Rhineland all the way south to northern Italy. It corresponds with old Lotharingia, or "middle Kingdom" of one of Charlemagne sons when Frankish Empire fell apart.

This is core of western Christian European civilisation. It's not Central Europe in later meaning obviously, but highest concentration of culture and progress was there.

Medieval german knights did great job to spread christianity everywhere.

[Feiichy]

Medieval german knights did great job to spread christianity everywhere.

To Prussians you mean? I think Prussians would prefer if Teutonic order never came there....
Croats didn't receive Christianity from Germans but directly from Rome and that was done after Frankish ruled Panonnians were defeated.