Why do people deny that the Berid phenotype exists?

[Oliver109]

Lately i have been thinking a lot about Berids, i think the type is interesting and is one of the oldest light skinned Caucasoid types. A lot of people seem to say that Berids are not really a type as such but i see a lot of evidence of the Berid though it is hard to pinpoint exactly how it evolved.

[TheMario]

IMHO Berid = Alpine + Mediterranean + CM

[lei.talk]

one of the earliest designated taxa was berid.

"cro·mag·non·stu·di·en·ei·ne·ge·schicht·li·che ·und ·pro·gram·ma·ti·sche·skiz·ze"
the nine-year-old care-fully enunciated
in response to my question to her mother:
the librarian of our local ásatrú church.

"Fritz Paudler!" squealed the miniature version
standing next to her (the seven-year-old sister).

"They assisted processing the images into a PDF."

"437 embedded links." clarified the older daughter.

"OH! SEE! ARE!" squealed the younger.

"Optical character recognition." decrypted the mother.
"The project was an exercise.
And the product is an excellent introduction to physical anthropology
because it takes you so many places."

"Abyssinians!" declared the youngest of the three.

"The first documented anthropological characterization of the berid taxon." countered the older girl.

here is a click-able magazine-cover
leading to berids ninety years before "anthroforums" existed:

of course,
there were frequent references
over the intervening decades.

The Physical Anthropology Wiki Berid ^{Paudler & Lundman}

Low skulled, pyknomorphic, and somewhat reduced Mediterranid-Cromagnid intermediate type with (possible) Berberid influence. Went through some process of alpinization, but still contains some Cromagnid features. Similar to Paleo Sardinian. Mostly found in Southern Iberia, Galicia, Southern Italy and parts of Northern Africa. Very common in the peasantry of southeastern Spain, where it may be the dominant type.

Physical traits: Fair to light brown skin. straight or wavy, brown to black hair. Dark eyes. Short to medium height, mesoskelic, mesomorph to endomorph. Dolicho-mesocephalic, chamae-orthocranic. Nose is mildly leptorrhine to mesorrhine, often concave and somewhat large. Robust features, strong and pronounced jaw. Body hair usually heavy. Sometimes shows pseudo-mongoloid eyes like in Berberid. If the Alpinid element is predominant, it may show softer facial features and a more rounded face.

Location: Southern Iberian peninsula, Southern Italy, and North Africa. Very rarely in UK.

[Oliver109]

IMHO Berid = Alpine + Mediterranean + CM

When i see a Berid i think of a phenotype that is pure rather than a mix, it could be from a proto CM but to me Brunns, Borrebies look like very different alien types from Berids.

[Sebastianus Rex]

lei.talk just ended this thread, Berid/Paleosardinian it's a well identified type...unlike the "atlantid" and a few other popular classifications around here.

[Oliver109]

lei.talk just ended this thread, Berid/Paleosardinian it's a well identified type...unlike the "atlantid" and a few other popular classifications around here.

Would you say Nicola Sturgeon is Berid? she seems to be a med-CM intermediate with rugged facial features, i have seen similar types in the rural areas in Spain

[Sebastianus Rex]

Would you say Nicola Sturgeon is Berid? she seems to be a med-CM intermediate with rugged facial features, i have seen similar types in the rural areas in Spain

Not at all, she looks completely different. Berid is a southern, reduced cromagnid/alpinised type, don't look for it in Britain.

[Oliver109]

Not at all, she looks completely different. Berid is a southern, reduced cromagnid/alpinised type, don't look for it in Britain.

Wouldn't Sturgeon be a sort of reduced cromagnid? I mean with Berids you can have a wide range of complexions from a yellowish olive to a freckled white.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Good examples of female Paleosardinians/Berids

[Sebastianus Rex]

Wouldn't Sturgeon be a sort of reduced cromagnid? I mean with Berids you can have a wide range of complexions from a yellowish olive to a freckled white.

She doesn't look reduced, metrically she's probably Brunn and overall not similar at all to real Berids/Paleosardinians.