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    All I see is a goat man

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    Why do they have such low hairline

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    Quote Originally Posted by rohan View Post
    Why do they have such low hairline
    Because there was no "modern women " to push it back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna View Post
    What's WSHG? West hunter gatherer? Is the Sahar Nagar rai remains an AASI individual? Isn't IVC mainly Iranian neoithic + a decent amount of aasi?

    What would I have to add to the pamiri saka individual to get something along the lines of modern day south central Asians ? iVC right ? Is there any reconstructions ?

    This is what I got when I mixed 2/3 BMAC as a proxy for Iran N + 1/3 AASI to get IVC .

    Then I mixed 1/3 IVC + 2/3 pamiri saka ( steppe + BMAC + east Siberian )


    ziploc competitor crossword

    He deffo can pass as some sort of Tajik or pashtun but I think the other morphs seems more accurate ?
    Pamiri Scythian is already a Mongoloid mixed Tajik like except lil IVCp. Yah, he's ancient and Your morphs are better.

    Sarai Nahar Rai is very much likely AASI. He's India (Ganga) Mesolithic.

    IVC like SIS BA3 is 45 AASI-45 IranN-10 ANE iirc. Pashtuns are <15% AASI, Tajiks 5-13% ,etc iirc. Its easy to add straight up AASI% if possible.


    WSHG is West Siberian HG. He's a mix of EHG+ ANE+ Siberian East Eurasian HG. Tagar is close to WSHG among reconstructed samples. Tagar has East Siberian blood.


    WSHGs were found to be of about 30% EHG ancestry, 50% ANE ancestry, and 20% to 38% East Asian ancestry.[9][19]
    Last edited by Kaazi; 01-19-2022 at 03:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    Pamiri Scythian is already a Mongoloid mixed Tajik like except lil IVCp. Yah, he's ancient and Your morphs are better.

    Sarai Nahar Rai is very much likely AASI. He's India (Ganga) Mesolithic.

    IVC like SIS BA3 is 45 AASI-45 IranN-10 ANE iirc. Pashtuns are <15% AASI, Tajiks 5-13% ,etc iirc. Its easy to add straight up AASI% if possible.


    WSHG is West Siberian HG. He's a mix of EHG+ ANE+ Siberian East Eurasian HG. Tagar is close to WSHG among reconstructed samples. Tagar has East Siberian blood.
    https://ancestralwhispers.org/reconstructions/tagar
    Wtf this is actually so weird , the tagar reconstruction resembles some afghans I know !!! Except the afghans with that look have darker hair , basically adding a layer of BMAC . This is so interesting lol.

    Ngl the aasi reconstruction does not look that australoid , which just shows much people have a strong misconceptions about south Asia and aasi . Heck there are more reconstructions that are very archaic like.

    As far as I know majority of afghan pashtuns , depending on the samples used etc , fall between 5-8% aasi , some calculators bump that up to maybe 6-9%.

    Would you say this is a good representation of an IVC indivudial? I basically mixed the BMAC (X2) + AASI ( Sarai ) . The bmac is used as a Iran N proxy and the Sarai sample as the aasi ( so 67% Iran N + 33% aasi) . Some ivc samples are even lower than 30% aasi I believe .




    ^ they kinda look like central / south Indians of today no? Reckon they would fit in all parts of India and even Pakistan .

    Edit : actually let me add a small layer of ANE. Are they any samples which represent ANE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna View Post
    Wtf this is actually so weird , the tagar reconstruction resembles some afghans I know !!! Except the afghans with that look have darker hair , basically adding a layer of BMAC . This is so interesting lol.

    Ngl the aasi reconstruction does not look that australoid , which just shows much people have a strong misconceptions about south Asia and aasi . Heck there are more reconstructions that are very archaic like.

    As far as I know majority of afghan pashtuns , depending on the samples used etc , fall between 5-8% aasi , some calculators bump that up to maybe 6-9%.

    Would you say this is a good representation of an IVC indivudial? I basically mixed the BMAC (X2) + AASI ( Sarai ) . The bmac is used as a Iran N proxy and the Sarai sample as the aasi ( so 67% Iran N + 33% aasi) . Some ivc samples are even lower than 30% aasi I believe .


    Tagar is from Andronovo horizon + East Siberia. So, obviously Central Asian like.

    Yes, some IVCp like I1459 are 30% AASI but that will take up large IranN portion. I can't say how they looked like. Their closest folks are SI farmers, Gujaratis, some may resemble Sindhis like IranN enriched IVCs.

    Sarai Nahar Rai seems to be a dreadful Hunter Gatherer in Ganges who consumed sufficient animal proteins imo; very rough and tough. Hes one of the tallest human in the Meso world.

    https://ancestralwhispers.org/reconstructions/sarai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    Pamiri Scythian is already a Mongoloid mixed Tajik like except lil IVCp. Yah, he's ancient and Your morphs are better.

    Sarai Nahar Rai is very much likely AASI. He's India (Ganga) Mesolithic.

    IVC like SIS BA3 is 45 AASI-45 IranN-10 ANE iirc. Pashtuns are <15% AASI, Tajiks 5-13% ,etc iirc. Its easy to add straight up AASI% if possible.


    WSHG is West Siberian HG. He's a mix of EHG+ ANE+ Siberian East Eurasian HG. Tagar is close to WSHG among reconstructed samples. Tagar has East Siberian blood.
    This is 90% Iran N + AASI and 10% ANE

    90%



    +

    10%



    To give IVC ( Iran N AASI and ANE)



    I genuinely believe that the AASI admixed IVC farmers looked somewhat like that^ . I mean the morph can pass in Gujarat or as Sindhi no problem . That's assuming the BMAC morph looked like the Iranian neoithic farmers .

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    Does anyone know what the Iranian neotlithic farmers consisted of? Caucausus Hunter gatherers + ?

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