View Poll Results: Which phenotype did ancient Andronovo people mostly have?

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  • East Nordid

    13 59.09%
  • Iranid

    0 0%
  • Baltid

    2 9.09%
  • Pontid

    2 9.09%
  • North Pontid

    1 4.55%
  • Alpinid

    0 0%
  • Armenoid

    0 0%
  • Dinarid

    0 0%
  • Irano Mediterranid

    0 0%
  • Other (please specify)

    4 18.18%
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Thread: Andronovo people's phenotype

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    They surely looked closer to ancient Slavs than to ancient Germanics, at least considering cranial dimensions.
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    but yeah, its pretty much known that atlantid types and kelto nordids most certainly constituted a large portion of the phenotypes amongst the proto indo iranians and hallstatt as well

    you can observe from the above attachment of another proto indo iranian who is obviously kelto-saxon, or keltic nordid with Hallstatt like influence you'd like to call it

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    heres another extremely british looking andronovo reconstruction, she doesn't quite fit the corded nordid criteria nor does she entirely fit the Hallstatt criteria, she is harbors elements from both, but latter is the predominance, her face/forehead is more hallstatt or probably even keltic nordid like and perhaps her high vault being corded, overall she's predominantly hallstatt-keltic nordid, both have compressed gonial angles and the bottom one especially is gracile aswell, reminds me off a textbook example, cant seem to find it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    They surely looked closer to ancient Slavs than to ancient Germanics, at least considering cranial dimensions.
    Forgot to mention their isolated and occasional descendants whomst inherited their phenotypes, I can literally show you a near doppelganger of sven nordin who fits the tronder criteria from nuristan lmao and that speaks absolute volumes, who the fuck would expect a extremely similar looking man to a norwegian actor all the way in afghanistan, you'd find zero such cases in nw euros and slavs and even germanics, really shows you there was zero phenotypic and genetic differences between proto indo iranians and modern and ancient germanics, makes sense since both populations are basically unadmixed corded ware people genetically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
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    but yeah, its pretty much known that atlantid types and kelto nordids most certainly constituted a large portion of the phenotypes amongst the proto indo iranians and hallstatt as well

    you can observe from the above attachment of another proto indo iranian who is obviously kelto-saxon, or keltic nordid with Hallstatt like influence you'd like to call it

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    heres another extremely british looking andronovo reconstruction, she doesn't quite fit the corded nordid criteria nor does she entirely fit the Hallstatt criteria, she is harbors elements from both, but latter is the predominance, her face/forehead is more hallstatt or probably even keltic nordid like and perhaps her high vault being corded, overall she's predominantly hallstatt-keltic nordid, both have compressed gonial angles and the bottom one especially is gracile aswell, reminds me off a textbook example, cant seem to find it
    Can you stop posting high vaulted Eastern types and wrongly classify them as low vaulted Western types already?
    It's getting boring by now.

    Just get it already, high cranial vault = not fucking Keltic Nordid or Hallstatt Nordid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
    Forgot to mention their isolated and occasional descendants whomst inherited their phenotypes, I can literally show you a near doppelganger of sven nordin who fits the tronder criteria from nuristan lmao and that speaks absolute volumes, who the fuck would expect a extremely similar looking man to a norwegian actor all the way in afghanistan, you'd find zero such cases in nw euros and slavs and even germanics, really shows you there was zero phenotypic and genetic differences between proto indo iranians and modern and ancient germanics, makes sense since both populations are basically unadmixed corded ware people genetically.
    Yea, guess what, Scandinavians are partially descendants of Corded Ware culture, therefore some of them look more Corded than Hallstatt (especially in Norway), and some of them look similiar to Indo-Iranians who are also descended from Corded Ware culture.

    This still doesn't mean Proto-Indo-Iranians were mostly fucking Hallstatt or Keltic Nordids, metrics don't check out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
    who the fuck would expect a extremely similar looking man to a norwegian actor all the way in afghanistan, you'd find zero such cases in nw euros and slavs and even germanics
    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
    makes sense since both populations are basically unadmixed corded ware people genetically
    read a book or something

    p.s. your "textbook Hallstatt example" is a Ukrainian woman by the name Iyrine Nevmyvanaya, also obviously not Hallstatt when you look at her other photos
    Last edited by Veslan; 06-26-2023 at 08:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Can you stop posting high vaulted Eastern types and wrongly classify them as low vaulted Western types already?
    It's getting boring by now.

    Just get it already, high cranial vault = not fucking Keltic Nordid or Hallstatt Nordid.



    Yea, guess what, Scandinavians are partially descendants of Corded Ware culture, therefore some of them look more Corded than Hallstatt (especially in Norway), and some of them look similiar to Indo-Iranians who are also descended from Corded Ware culture.

    This still doesn't mean Proto-Indo-Iranians were mostly fucking Hallstatt or Keltic Nordids, metrics don't check out.



    Lol


    read a book or something

    p.s. your "textbook Hallstatt example" is a Ukrainian woman by the name Iyrine Nevmyvanaya, also obviously not Hallstatt when you look at her other photos
    Whoops, i triggered a mega rage out, lmao, but yeah the old lady isn't corded nor "eastern" looking in any sense, I never said they were mostly keltic or hallstatt, I just said that such phenotypes existed in large portion, however corded nordid was definently predomiant, also they both looks westerner exclusively lmao, ask anyone aside from biased polak man called Veslan

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    Probably Eastern Nordic ? type as their ancestors were from Fatyanovo culture of the Russian Forest lands. I think that you can find such features even to this day in Eastern Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
    Forgot to mention their isolated and occasional descendants whomst inherited their phenotypes, I can literally show you a near doppelganger of sven nordin who fits the tronder criteria from nuristan lmao and that speaks absolute volumes, who the fuck would expect a extremely similar looking man to a norwegian actor all the way in afghanistan, you'd find zero such cases in nw euros and slavs and even germanics, really shows you there was zero phenotypic and genetic differences between proto indo iranians and modern and ancient germanics, makes sense since both populations are basically unadmixed corded ware people genetically.
    Its nothing to get so obsessed about as you are, but post the Nuristani anyway.

    Here are some Nuristanis. Btw its easy to see they are not Pashtuns.








    Not sure if the guy on the horse is Nuristani, but he is Afghan.
    Last edited by turbosat; 06-27-2023 at 07:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viśvāmitra View Post
    Probably Eastern Nordic ? type as their ancestors were from Fatyanovo culture of the Russian Forest lands. I think that you can find such features even to this day in Eastern Europe.
    they werent, they were western nordic. also russians have zero ancestry from them

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