Are polish/west slavs the least robust + with least sharp facial features among eastern europeans?

[arco]

For easier comparison, I'm excluding south slavs from this claim. Therefore, only what's left in red here:



Starting with baltics, some of them often have quite robust and sharp facial features, as characterized by the west baltid phenotype, which if I had to guess, is one of the regions with the most robusticity per capita:



Here is a school in lithuania, which although is a country filled with other eastern european groups, is quite representative of what "actual lithuanians" look like according to a friend of mine who was born and raised there:



Now, compare this to a polish school:



Of course, some of the people will have a common look, but I believe there is a degree of distinction here between the two pics that I've observed before.

Another thing that seems to be true is another group that has sharp facial features - north pontids - mainly reside in the eastern slav region, with a much higher concentration in ukraine/south russia. So, although it's still present in west slavs, it's in a smaller degree.

Rather, it seems like neo danubian and gorids (both brachycephalic with not-so-sharp facial features) are much more common and prevalent than in other countries on the region. Another group that seems to be more prevalent in the west slavic region as well is the pre slavic, however, it seems to be a less prevalent group like the 2 mentioned before (this one i'm not 100% sure though).

Also, on the other hand, european russians, just like baltics (especially east baltids), seem to be more mixed with eastern nordid groups than west slavs are. I posted this guy from Kazakhstan on another thread I made recently and, despite what many said, he does not look scandinavian AT ALL. Neither does he look west slavic:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...possible/page3

https://www.instagram.com/bendaselis/

He just screams russian/east slavic to me, which from what I observed and noted here, makes quite a lot of sense.

Besides all of that, you don't often see faelids or other CM groups in western slav regions as you do germany and westwards, so it's not really at play here either.

Conclusion: from what I can tell, all groups close to west slavs have some mixing that gives them taller skulls or/and sharper, more robust bones + there is a smaller concentration of gorids/neo danubians who are more child-like and the most common among west slavs

NOTE: this is coming from someone who has never been to eastern europe, therefore my observations come from common media/sports team pics/school pics/online dating experiments + I'm not a specialist on all of this shit yet so feel free to correct me in case u got evidence that I'm wrong

[HectorOfTroy]

Here is a school in lithuania, which although is a country filled with other eastern european groups, is quite representative of what "actual lithuanians" look like according to a friend of mine who was born and raised there:

@Laredo
some of these people look psuedo latino, no?

[HectorOfTroy]

First pic (Lithuanians), I dont see much North Pontids, look mostly Pontid/South Pontid to me. Also dont think they look sharper featured, I think you're percieving them as having sharper features facially simply because they look more ectomorphic body type (long narrow and lean) compared to the poles who look more medium bodied.

[arco]

@Laredo
some of these people look psuedo latino, no?

Are u fr? I think barely any of them could pass in latin america, regardless if its in argentina, bolivia, or peru lmao

[arco]

First pic (Lithuanians), I dont see much North Pontids, look mostly Pontid/South Pontid to me. Also dont think they look sharper featured, I think you're percieving them as having sharper features facially simply because they look more ectomorphic body type (long narrow and lean) compared to the poles who look more medium bodied.

Pontids? A few of them, maybe. But most fit within baltic phenotypes much more, as they have light colouring (blue eyes + light brown/blonde hair) and wide faces, with really wide, blocky jaws + taller skulls.

By sharper features, I tried going off purely their faces. Look how the polish differ from the lithuanians as they have rounder faces, small and sometimes recessed jaws, with short chins and overall a brachy look.

[HectorOfTroy]

Are u fr? I think barely any of them could pass in latin america, regardless if its in argentina, bolivia, or peru lmao

Bottom left girl, 2nd from bottom left, 3rd from bottom left, bottom right guy, middle row outer left girl, middle row outer right girl, tall darker dude right at the middle of the top row.

[thatoneton]

For easier comparison, I'm excluding south slavs from this claim. Therefore, only what's left in red here:

What is this map based on?

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comm...pita_imf_2021/

I'm even not mentioning that Poles are not Eastern Europeans, but if you want to exclude South Slavs, then are Greeks, Albanians, Hungarians etc. included (as per you map) in the discussion?

Also wouldn't it make more sense to compare Poles to other North Europeans, like other West Slavs, Balts, East Slavs, British, Scandinavians, French, Germans, Hungarians, maybe Romanians, and not to Mediterranean people?

[renaissance12]

For easier comparison, I'm excluding south slavs from this claim. Therefore, only what's left in red here:



Starting with baltics, some of them often have quite robust and sharp facial features, as characterized by the west baltid phenotype, which if I had to guess, is one of the regions with the most robusticity per capita:



Here is a school in lithuania, which although is a country filled with other eastern european groups, is quite representative of what "actual lithuanians" look like according to a friend of mine who was born and raised there:



Now, compare this to a polish school:



Of course, some of the people will have a common look, but I believe there is a degree of distinction here between the two pics that I've observed before.

Another thing that seems to be true is another group that has sharp facial features - north pontids - mainly reside in the eastern slav region, with a much higher concentration in ukraine/south russia. So, although it's still present in west slavs, it's in a smaller degree.

Rather, it seems like neo danubian and gorids (both brachycephalic with not-so-sharp facial features) are much more common and prevalent than in other countries on the region. Another group that seems to be more prevalent in the west slavic region as well is the pre slavic, however, it seems to be a less prevalent group like the 2 mentioned before (this one i'm not 100% sure though).

Also, on the other hand, european russians, just like baltics (especially east baltids), seem to be more mixed with eastern nordid groups than west slavs are. I posted this guy from Kazakhstan on another thread I made recently and, despite what many said, he does not look scandinavian AT ALL. Neither does he look west slavic:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...possible/page3

https://www.instagram.com/bendaselis/

He just screams russian/east slavic to me, which from what I observed and noted here, makes quite a lot of sense.

Besides all of that, you don't often see faelids or other CM groups in western slav regions as you do germany and westwards, so it's not really at play here either.

Conclusion: from what I can tell, all groups close to west slavs have some mixing that gives them taller skulls or/and sharper, more robust bones + there is a smaller concentration of gorids/neo danubians who are more child-like and the most common among west slavs

NOTE: this is coming from someone who has never been to eastern europe, therefore my observations come from common media/sports team pics/school pics/online dating experiments + I'm not a specialist on all of this shit yet so feel free to correct me in case u got evidence that I'm wrong

The students in the pics of the Lithuanian class make me think that even in the Baltic countries blondes ( light medium and dark ) are not the majority of people.


Does it make sense to claim that ONLY in Finland ( 4 milions people.. like Rome ) more than 50% of people have blonde hair ? ( light medium dark )

To avoid discussion, I confirm that in Italy people with blond hair are not even 10% of the population and 10% of the people look MENA..

[arco]

What is this map based on?

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comm...pita_imf_2021/

I'm even not mentioning that Poles are not Eastern Europeans, but if you want to exclude South Slavs, then are Greeks, Albanians, Hungarians etc. included (as per you map) in the discussion?

Also wouldn't it make more sense to compare Poles to other North Europeans, like other West Slavs, Balts, East Slavs, British, Scandinavians, French, Germans, Hungarians, maybe Romanians, and not to Mediterranean people?

I just used this map because many wouldn't include the baltic region as eastern europe, not much meaning behind it besides that.

I think hungarians are not that far from west slavs, so yeah, they could be included, but not greeks and albanians imo.

It does make sense to compare them to north europeans (which in a way were included already in the comparison) but most of us already have a good picture of how scandinavians, germans, british etc look like, as they are overrepresented in western media, unless u live in east europe ofc. So I just wanted to compare them to other groups outside of that.

[arco]

The students in the pics of the Lithuanian class make me think that even in the Baltic countries blondes ( light medium and dark ) are not the majority of people.


Does it make sense to claim that ONLY in Finland ( 4 milions people.. like Rome ) more than 50% of people have blonde hair ? ( light medium dark )

To avoid discussion, I confirm that in Italy people with blond hair are not even 10% of the population and 10% of the people look MENA..

It was quite a bit of a surprise to me too, I expected lithuanians to look more like the finnish in terms of colouring but they are quite darker, similar to the polish in that regard.

Finland for sure - maybe estonia and northwestern russia too? That "light hair map" only puts east sweden and west finland on the 80%+ category (light hair on that case, not blonde)